Imo Shenzen has shown some real supply chain innovation but... seriously you're bringing up counterfeit goods offloading IP development costs onto competitors as an example of innovation from China?

You have to look deeper into the phenomenon. I'm not talking about the illegal practices and poor quality, I'm talking about the fact that these practices often lead to lower cost and accidental innovations due to disregarding IP laws.

I think it's fascinating how certain types of products have been targeted for counterfeiting and how far they have spread. When you look at the ever downward pressure on price (and often, inadvertently quality) demanded by customers, I think it might lead to the conditions supporting these practices.

It's definitely a think outside of the box type of exercise, but, look at open source and compare for a minute. Of course there is a huge differences, but I think the things the comparison highlights are of interest to question.

For the record, my comments weren't mean to be disparaging in any way of the multitude of Chinese innovations. Clearly the Chinese power to innovate has existed for probably longer than many countries and many critical inventions and ideas arose there. For example, gunpowder, paper, compasses, etc.

The IP has to exist before you can "mash it up"