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Re:Bitcoin Traders Claim There’s Method to Their Madness by aitrean on Friday December 22, 2017 @03:53PM (#15990797)
Day trading crypto is a zero sum game. You can profit if you're able to somewhat predict the madness and stupidity of the market just before the market acts that way.
Re:Bitcoin Traders Claim There’s Method to Their Madness by robrenaud on Friday December 22, 2017 @04:13PM (#15990963)
It's less than zero sum, right? Each transaction has a cost.
Re:Bitcoin Traders Claim There’s Method to Their Madness by Ajedi32 on Friday December 22, 2017 @04:34PM (#15991106)
If you're referring to Bitcoin transaction fees, that's not a factor on the exchanges, since the exchange itself holds all coins in its own wallet until you decide to withdraw.
Re:Bitcoin Traders Claim There’s Method to Their Madness by timjver on Friday December 22, 2017 @04:58PM (#15991245)
They were probably referring to the fees that exchanges charge.
Re:Bitcoin Traders Claim There’s Method to Their Madness by adjkant on Friday December 22, 2017 @06:41PM (#15991828)
There are no fees on GDAX unless you're a taker.
Re:Bitcoin Traders Claim There’s Method to Their Madness by umanwizard on Friday December 22, 2017 @09:25PM (#15992564)
That's true, but irrelevant. GDAX takes a fee on every trade. Therefore it's a negative-sum game, not zero.
Re:Bitcoin Traders Claim There’s Method to Their Madness by daveguy on Friday December 22, 2017 @09:48PM (#15992628)
The casino always wins. True for poker and bitcoin.
Re:Bitcoin Traders Claim There’s Method to Their Madness by the_cat_kittles on Friday December 22, 2017 @04:13PM (#15990960)
this is the simplest, most correct understanding. there are some things that drive the price of bitcoin that are more fundamental, like instability of various currencies, and government regulations on btc. but none of those have changed drastically recently. so what is driving the price? hype, and the price itself. i think you should be pretty skeptical any time you made money and youre not sure why.
Re:Bitcoin Traders Claim There’s Method to Their Madness by anonemouse145 on Friday December 22, 2017 @04:34PM (#15991108)
I know exactly why I made money. This is a ponzi scheme with unlimited uninformed people joining. You feel your personal level of risk, find a time, and invest only what you can afford to lose. You can do the same with Tupperware if you know enough people to sign up under you, grab a bunch of free product and sign out.

During previous dips, it was 100% guaranteed you could get a good return in one week. So that's exactly what any smart person was doing. Some could risk more, power to them.

Personally, I'm not touching the market until it gets a lot closer to $1k. And I think the odds are getting better every day.

Re:Bitcoin Traders Claim There’s Method to Their Madness by the_cat_kittles on Friday December 22, 2017 @05:11PM (#15991333)
didnt mean to imply that you or someone else didnt. just that lots of people are deluding themselves in to thinking that they are tech scions who know something special about "blockchain technology" and are profiting off bitcoin because of this. and that is not to say that the tech is not interesting, or without some interesting applications. just that there seem to be a crop of idiots who are acting like they did more than just get temporarily lucky.
Re:Bitcoin Traders Claim There’s Method to Their Madness by solipsism on Friday December 22, 2017 @04:50PM (#15991200)
I'm curious, how did you come up with $1k?
Re:Bitcoin Traders Claim There’s Method to Their Madness by Fnoord on Friday December 22, 2017 @07:10PM (#15991989)
That's what it was roughly worth before the hyperdeflation started.

I put my money on waiting until after Tether [1] fraud gets exposed.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tether_(cryptocurrency)

Re:Bitcoin Traders Claim There’s Method to Their Madness by chrisco255 on Sunday December 24, 2017 @02:49AM (#15998515)
I often hear this theory that tether is just printing bills that are not backed by actual USD... Which I doubt is occurring... But even if it is and every single tether is counterfeit, the market cap of Tether is a mere $1.2 billion. To put that in perspective, Bitcoin's cap is $240 billion. Tether is not a major factor in Bitcoin's price. Sorry.
Re:Bitcoin Traders Claim There’s Method to Their Madness by Fnoord on Sunday December 24, 2017 @07:25AM (#15999248)
If you doubt its occurring, mayhaps you can share facts which lead you to that conclusion?