Re:Dozens of Companies Are Using Facebook to Exclude Older W...
by joe_the_user on Thursday December 21, 2017 @01:28AM
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Yes, the "software should really only be measured by the value it provides" attitucde is kind of the key problem we're facing in a whole lot fields.
Because it's not really the value overall the software provides that's being talked about but the instantaneous, immediately visible payoff to a single consumer that software, the people or that consumables are getting judged by. If the software is going to result in trouble over time, if it's going to have security holes that will cost a lot over time, if it's going to commit you to garbage that's updated less and less frequently, etc. None of this calculated. Just as the health costs of sugary drinks don't get calculated, the social costs of poor education don't get calculated, etc.
Re:Dozens of Companies Are Using Facebook to Exclude Older W...
by TeMPOraL on Thursday December 21, 2017 @05:30AM
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Also the externalities that are never mentioned: bloat and poor performance unnecessarily takes up user's resources, frustrating them and preventing them from doing other things on their machine simultaneously, and also unnecessarily wasting electricity. Multiply that by the number of users of the software, and suddenly all that talk about "optimizing for developer time" starts to sound like "I'll save $100 for myself by inflicting $100k in externalities".
Re:Dozens of Companies Are Using Facebook to Exclude Older W...
by synotna on Thursday December 21, 2017 @02:39AM
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It's up to regulation - self or government imposed - to factor externalities in, change society and/or change the law
Re:Dozens of Companies Are Using Facebook to Exclude Older W...
by dorgo on Thursday December 21, 2017 @05:28AM
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Somehow I never consider to solve a problem by delegating it to government or society. My first thought is always: there must be a technical solution for this. Even government and society are going to be solved by technology: crypto/blockchain or something which will evolve out of it.
Re:Dozens of Companies Are Using Facebook to Exclude Older W...
by joe_the_user on Thursday December 21, 2017 @02:22PM
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There's no tech that specifically gets people to do the right thing. There's tech that might make people do things but that tech can be harnessed to get people to do either right or wrong things.
Re:Dozens of Companies Are Using Facebook to Exclude Older W...
by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Thursday December 21, 2017 @09:47AM
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Even on a larger scale, the world hasn't burnt down with all the private information that's been stolen lately, has it? Have there even been any significant consequences?
Is it possible that the value assigned to keeping that information secret was, in the end, actually appropriate?
The problem is when the "negative value" is externalized leading to false evaluations. "Oops, so sorry we leaked all your social security numbers. Our bad."