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Re:Uber is officially a cab firm, says European court by saint_fiasco on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @08:16AM (#15969211)
I would totally buy the food from the random person if it was cheap, convenient and had good user ratings.

People who can afford to only buy things with background checks and quality control and insurance should be free to buy those things, but it's a little mean to decide for everyone else. Some people can only afford the shitty version.

Re:Uber is officially a cab firm, says European court by user5994461 on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @09:28AM (#15969748)
A random person cannot sell food to random person.

uber eats and deliveroo are only working with restaurants, they couldn't do otherwise.

Re:Uber is officially a cab firm, says European court by saint_fiasco on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @09:36AM (#15969829)
Yes they can. It happens all the time, just not through a company. Probably not in Europe, though.

I am making a normative argument. I am aware that regulations prevent that sort of thing for good reasons. I say that there are also good reasons for not regulating. In everything there is a tradeoff.

Re:Uber is officially a cab firm, says European court by simion314 on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @10:16AM (#15970218)
Yeah, but the society calculated and decided that it is worth some extra cost to have clean food places and personnel then have to pay with lives or medical care. As a society we decided that this rules are better globally, even if some individuals would risk eating expired food because is cheaper.
Re:Uber is officially a cab firm, says European court by jpttsn on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @03:53PM (#15973703)
Society rarely gets its calculator out. Rule making tends to be a political process. Oftentimes, the rules are suboptimal. The “calculation” is just a convenient rationalization.
Re:Uber is officially a cab firm, says European court by simion314 on Thursday December 21, 2017 @01:56AM (#15976964)
I assume even if I get an exact measuring function for cost vs benefits you will find a minority that will ask to use a different measurement function.
Re:Uber is officially a cab firm, says European court by saint_fiasco on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @12:12PM (#15971493)
If the society provides free medical care then I guess that is fair.
Re:Uber is officially a cab firm, says European court by simion314 on Thursday December 21, 2017 @01:55AM (#15976960)
Yes, I am not from US so yes for US in Europe is fair to have this kind of rules and taxes on things that are bad for health like cigarettes and alcohol
Re:Uber is officially a cab firm, says European court by saint_fiasco on Thursday December 21, 2017 @08:12AM (#15978497)
I'm from the third world, where these sort of rules would just remove poor people's access to cheap stuff for no benefit.

I think even in US and Europe there is a significant minority of poor people for whom these sorts of rules are a net negative.

Re:Uber is officially a cab firm, says European court by simion314 on Thursday December 21, 2017 @05:12PM (#15983319)
You think that allowing poor people to buy and eat expired and spoiled food is a good idea? You would get an epidemic and pay at least 10 times more and one person eating bad stuff could infect an entire village, so I disagree we should allow selling bad food, the companies would find ways to sell rotten flesh if it was legal and they would make some cool commercials and packaging for it.
Re:Uber is officially a cab firm, says European court by saint_fiasco on Friday December 22, 2017 @08:19AM (#15987189)
The very fact that a company makes a cool commercial is a signal that they are willing to invest a lot of money to make their brand known. From there, people can infer that they won't just make their customers sick, change their name and location to escape the bad reputation, and do the same thing again somewhere else.

Poor people sell food to each other all the time without formal credentials, certifications, inspections and so on. Since they sell to each other, locally, to people who know them, they will only make each other sick on accident. And if someone has lots of accidents people will switch to a better cook. The amount of food poisoning will increase, but not to epidemic levels.

Re:Uber is officially a cab firm, says European court by simion314 on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @10:08AM (#15970134)
Sure, until you get sick.