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Re:Uber is officially a cab firm, says European court by Erwin on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @05:30AM (#15968479)
My local (Denmark) taxi company has an app that is pretty much like Uber: I enter start and end address and can prepay. But, they do obey the law unlike Uber.

I suppose Uber's ease of use has inspired other companies, so it's great there was some competition. But now if Uber wants to return to Denmark, they must also obey the law.

I think in Europe we prefer to not have too much "disruption" and "lobbyism".

The big ongoing corruption case in Denmark right now is an IT company that paid for a $50,000 Dubai "research" trip with IT-bosses from the the local government (in hope of making it back for selling too-expensive IT equipment to the state)

There's a lot of people involved -- so far, a government employee has received a 4 month non-suspended prison sentence for receiving about $7,000 worth of iPhones etc.

Re:Uber is officially a cab firm, says European court by mattmanser on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @05:43AM (#15968540)
We had app ride hailing in Nottingham, UK before Uber was even founded. It was an inevitability everywhere.

Rather funnily, we had a Twilio in Nottingham too many years before Twilio was founded.

The difference between EU and American startups is that there are VCs investing huge sums in US companies so they can do mass advertising.

Re:Uber is officially a cab firm, says European court by jouls on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @07:29AM (#15968983)
It's unfortunately not that surprising though. The tech giants have operated in Europe largely without paying taxes. Avoiding corporate income taxes with help of Ireland, The Netherlands and US tax law. As well as avoiding VAT with special deals with Luxembourg. They have essentially operated with a large discount compared to local competitors. It's of course a lot harder to get investments in the shadow of such competition.

I don't think funding as such is the main problem in Europe though. We do have a few really rich tech people, as well as a lot of old wealth. What we don't have is the thousands of semi-rich people in the wake of the tech giants that can "repeat the cycle". Something especially needed since we haven't been spared the increase in housing costs.

Re:Uber is officially a cab firm, says European court by pm90 on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @12:04PM (#15971399)
Excellent point, especially with the tons of semi rich people. Its often overlooked how young SV really is. The first gold rush was in semiconductors, and the people that made money there invested in software and the cycle continued. What essentially happened is that these "semi-rich" people, as you say, were perfect investors in new startups:

1. They had the money to get the startup going 2. They had the technical expertise to (mostly) select good investments and cut through the bullshit. 3. They had experience with startups themselves; they were excellent mentors and had industry connections besides.

Now the system is in place, it seems rather magical.

Re:Uber is officially a cab firm, says European court by falsedan on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @07:07AM (#15968892)
Also becuase of difference between EU VC and US VC: US VCs are happy to invest in something that might not pay off, EU funding are more insistent about ROI.
Re:Uber is officially a cab firm, says European court by jjkk0101 on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @09:18AM (#15969650)
Came here to say that, fellow Dane. You don't need to bypass regulations to provide a quality service.
Re:Uber is officially a cab firm, says European court by brailsafe on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @11:17AM (#15970875)
I was going to say "Ironically, Uber has a non-trivial office in Aarhus", which is true, but turns out they have many offices all over the world which is for some reason surprising. Might be one of the larger ones though.
Re:Uber is officially a cab firm, says European court by mikkelam on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @06:17AM (#15968681)
What's the name of this app?
Re:Uber is officially a cab firm, says European court by bvad on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @06:22AM (#15968697)
I assume he's talking about Moove