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Re:Modern life is lonely – We all need someone to help by colechristensen on Tuesday December 19, 2017 @04:38AM (#15958974)
They were generally family groups that very much depended on each other constantly for survival. The social dynamics would be very different than what can readily be imagined today. Harassing someone whose existence is necessary for you all to eat tomorrow or to avoid getting eaten by wild animals is going to be quite a different situation.

Applying the fad buzzword for children being mean to each other in suburban middle schools to primitive human culture isn't exactly a valid comparison.

Re:Modern life is lonely – We all need someone to help by watwut on Tuesday December 19, 2017 @05:06AM (#15959108)
"Harassing someone whose existence is necessary for you all to eat tomorrow or to avoid getting eaten by wild animals is going to be quite a different situation."

Then again, harassing someone who depends on you is entirely different.

Then again, bullying someone so that you ensure pecking order and he does what you want and is beneficial for you a bit more in situation with scarcity is different too.

Suburban middle schools kids did not invented cruelty nor mockery nor ostracization nor beating other kids up. My grand parents remembered such stories. Old books contains such stories. If anything, this get worst with bad situations - hunger or war. There is no reason to think primitive people were somehow magically honorable and noble.

Re:Modern life is lonely – We all need someone to help by colechristensen on Tuesday December 19, 2017 @03:11PM (#15963761)
I'm talking about primitive human hunter-gatherer society, you're talking about your grandparents.
Re:Modern life is lonely – We all need someone to help by watwut on Wednesday December 20, 2017 @02:50AM (#15967803)
"small groups of mostly related people" still bully and harass each other which is case of grandparents childhood. Why would hunter-gatherers not? Especially since victim leaving his group makes him vulnerable to all those other tribes that would "tried to kill" you (plus your old)?
Re:Modern life is lonely – We all need someone to help by monob on Tuesday December 19, 2017 @05:00AM (#15959080)
The only people who long for a large family are the ones that aren't in one.

Look at how much constant violence and bullying there is between any siblings when an adult isn't around to stop it.

Re:Modern life is lonely – We all need someone to help by perfmode on Tuesday December 19, 2017 @05:52AM (#15959280)
Different environment, no?

Back then, kids would need to rely on each other more, no?

Nowadays, what good is a sibling really?

Re:Modern life is lonely – We all need someone to help by monob on Tuesday December 19, 2017 @06:23PM (#15965450)
"Back then" you would try and kill your oldest brother to inherit the 2 chickens and a goat your parents would leave to him.

Read no further than the histories of nobles and their feuds and murders to see how bad the best families were.

Re:Modern life is lonely – We all need someone to help by dragonwriter on Tuesday December 19, 2017 @06:24PM (#15965464)
The nobles were the richest families, but not necessarily the best by any other measure.
Re:Modern life is lonely – We all need someone to help by monob on Tuesday December 19, 2017 @06:39PM (#15965568)
Best by food availability, shelter, labor.

Given that even in good years a large portion of the population was malnourished in whatever time period you want to pick before the middle of the 20th century, the rich were always better off than the poor and rich families were better than poor ones.

Re:Modern life is lonely – We all need someone to help by dragonwriter on Tuesday December 19, 2017 @06:54PM (#15965681)
Right, all those things are different ways of saying wealth.

The implication made uphtread is that the rich were best in terms of (lower) intrafamilial conflict. One might assume that wealth produced that effect, one might also assume that the rich were more dependent on social status and property for support, while the poor were more dependent on having close relations who could give aid and lacked assets to fight over, thus leading to less intrafamilial conflict than among the rich.