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Re:Volvo is reportedly scaling back its self-driving car exp... by Fricken on Sunday December 17, 2017 @03:23PM (#15947448)
The thing is Volvo's experiments haven't been going as well as others.

In the race to build a functional autonomous vehicle some companies are getting it done, and others, in spite of big promises, several years of effort, and scaled, well capitalized operations have very little to show for their efforts.

Everybody still has a lot of work to do, but the operations that can, at the very least, demonstrate as proof of concept their cars handling just a few miles of of uninterrupted driving in dynamic environments have cleared the biggest hurdle. Following that big hurdle is the validation process, which is tens of thousands of smaller hurdles stretching out as far as the eye can see, but so long as they've cleared the first, biggest hurdles, you can be reasonably confident they'll get to a minimum viable product eventually so long as they keep at it.

I have confidence in Waymo, GM, and Zoox. With everyone else it's either too soon to tell, or I don't have enough information, or they're sucking:

https://youtu.be/jClxcSBNwcw

Re:Volvo is reportedly scaling back its self-driving car exp... by jamesblonde on Sunday December 17, 2017 @03:49PM (#15947573)
I think you are on the right track here. I know some of the people hired by Volvo cars to work on this, and I am not aware of them recruiting top ML researchers to work on this and I suspect they are just not good enough people there. Waymo, on the other hand, will probably get it done, and done really well.
Re:Volvo is reportedly scaling back its self-driving car exp... by im_down_w_otp on Sunday December 17, 2017 @04:34PM (#15947801)
That's because Volvo's AV software position is a joint venture w/ Autoliv called Zenuity. https://www.zenuity.com

So if you're looking for CV/ML people working on the perception part of the stack, look there.

FWIW, I work in this field now and I have fairly low confidence in the non-ML parts of the software stack across the industry. There's a lot more to this problem than well manicured computer-vision demos, and Volvo is a lot less cavalier about loss of human life than almost anyone else, so it's fairly heartening to see them realign around realistic expectations.

Re:Volvo is reportedly scaling back its self-driving car exp... by justin66 on Monday December 18, 2017 @09:43AM (#15951898)
> The thing is Volvo's experiments haven't been going as well as others.

Where have the results of their experiments been published such that you feel confident in stating that?

Re:Volvo is reportedly scaling back its self-driving car exp... by Fricken on Monday December 18, 2017 @02:06PM (#15954369)
I'm at a loss as to what it is about Volvo's progress (or lack thereof) that is non-obvious enough to warrant investigation into published experiments that don't exist.
Re:Volvo is reportedly scaling back its self-driving car exp... by justin66 on Monday December 18, 2017 @03:56PM (#15955430)
Was your statement the thing is Volvo's experiments haven't been going as well as others based on any knowledge whatsoever? I'm just trying to understand what you are basing that on and how well-founded it is.
Re:Volvo is reportedly scaling back its self-driving car exp... by Fricken on Monday December 18, 2017 @09:27PM (#15957267)
Did you read the same article as me? It's not like I made an outrageous claim.