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Re:Traffic Engineers’ Epic Fail by eru on Sunday December 17, 2017 @12:30AM (#15944324)
London is the opposite: red lights are merely advisory for pedestrians. People just cross the streets. That has trained drivers to be very attentive.

Add in that usual London traffic moves at about bicycle speed, and the central part of town is a very human friendly place.

Re:Traffic Engineers’ Epic Fail by rahimnathwani on Sunday December 17, 2017 @01:43AM (#15944541)
Beijing is the opposite: red lights are merely advisory for drivers. Cars just cross the pedestrian crossings. That has trained pedestrians to be very attentive.
Re:Traffic Engineers’ Epic Fail by d4rti on Sunday December 17, 2017 @05:09AM (#15945107)
It's pretty great, and the bike lanes just keep getting better.
Re:Traffic Engineers’ Epic Fail by eru on Sunday December 17, 2017 @08:36AM (#15945707)
Yes. It's gotten so good that I feel the main impediment to cycling has become air quality rather than cars.
Re:Traffic Engineers’ Epic Fail by jessaustin on Sunday December 17, 2017 @12:14PM (#15946581)
Those factors seem to be related, don't they? b^)
Re:Traffic Engineers’ Epic Fail by eru on Sunday December 17, 2017 @10:55PM (#15949279)
At most tangentially.

I am glad they added a new "t-charge" (similar to the older congestion charge) to specifically target cars with worse emissions recently.