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Re:Decentralized internet is planned for Dubai, courtesy of ... by vidarh on Friday December 15, 2017 @01:12PM (#15933770)
The big challenge, as far as I can tell, is that the typical end user equipment just generally is not suitable. You e.g. want equipment with longer operating distance, and able to bridge multiple networks for example.

My home wifi barely stretches 50m down the road (yes I know they mention Bluetooth, but bluetooth is even worse in this respect). Meanwhile you can get outdoor wifi repeaters within the allowable output in the 5GHz channels in the UK with ranges in the 1km-2km range that are still cheap, and directional microwave equipment with theoretical ranges in the 100km range (major limit there is going to be height - beyond a few km, the curvature of the earth becomes a major hassle unless you can go higher gain).

Without that kind of distance, you need massive penetration to be able to connect users at all, even if you aim to pass data over the open net as soon as you get data to a node that is connected.

I live on a relatively high density London road, and I can typically see maybe 10 networks at any one time when travelling between home and my local train station for example. There'll be multiple devices on each, but with that kind of visibility it'll take a large proportion of users signing up to a service like this before you even start getting any big benefits from it.

I do believe peer-to-peer setups can make sense for this, but unless our smartphones gets massive upgrades in terms of antennas etc., I think building something around higher gain outdoor wifi will be more likely to be viable.

Re:Decentralized internet is planned for Dubai, courtesy of ... by tudorw on Friday December 15, 2017 @03:13PM (#15934678)
I've no issue with what you describe, I will question whether a high density London road may not be representative, anecdotally a foreign guest commented that he was amused by my concept of a busy place, he remarked that even in the busiest places in London his personal space was respected in a way he would not expect in his local village. Peer to peer has loads of potential, I can imagine a combination approach that makes the best of all available spectrum and falls back to a paid access tier if things get bad, this is an interesting area of technology as investment and innovation is less likely to come from the incumbent.
Re:Decentralized internet is planned for Dubai, courtesy of ... by vidarh on Saturday December 16, 2017 @11:11AM (#15940117)
Even with 10x the density, you'd need very penetration to be able to create a mesh.

I do agree that peer to peer has potential, but I think as I mentioned it has more potential as a "house to house" than "person to person" thing unless it gets adopted by one of the major mobile networks and pushed very aggressively (e.g. either made compulsory or pushed hard with discounts).

Re:Decentralized internet is planned for Dubai, courtesy of ... by dmix on Friday December 15, 2017 @05:33PM (#15935827)
What about some future scenario where smartphones are upgraded with P2P style antennas, is this technically feasible? Or will it be too much of a drain on batteries/heat generation given current technology?

The prospects of that happening and being widely deployed are quite interesting none-the-less.

Especially when combined with some more heavy duty stationary set-ups supporting the network.