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Re:The Silicon Valley paradox: one in four people are at ris... by dragonwriter on Thursday December 14, 2017 @10:13AM (#15922834)
> Oh please: how do the homeless streaming into NYC find their way over in the first place?

If it's anything like the mentally ill streaming into SF in some parts of recent history, they are shipped there by outside localities (lots of that's happened with one-way bus tickets for homeless in various directions on the west coast, too, aside from Nevada shipping mentally ill to SF.)

> But let's be charitable: we can fund a one-way ticket back, first class, to their state of residence at a vastly cheaper cost than for housing them on expensive land they will never be productive enough to work their way out of

Which is a good way to collapse wages and overwhelm infrastructure, both physical and social, in the place they get shipped (which won't be their “state of residence” in most cases, since that's where they are now), but I don't see how that solves any problem.

Re:The Silicon Valley paradox: one in four people are at ris... by lr4444lr on Thursday December 14, 2017 @11:15AM (#15923407)
Yes, same problem, and what's worse is that the Right to Shelter laws specifically governing the city forbid it from applying any type of requirements to be checked beforehand for emergency shelter eligibility. No need to prove residence, lack of income, etc. You show up at the social services offices, city is mandated to find housing for you that night for up to the limit (I think 30 days) by which time you either have to prove eligibility for long term homeless shelter entry, or else you can get back on the same line for the emergency shelter again. Brilliant system.

NYC has 10% of the entire USA's homeless population. Significantly more if you count the (probably large) percentage of the 635,000 or so in public housing who will almost never be able to afford even rent-stabilized apartments, and it is estimated that another 50% of that number live in that public housing off-lease.

About 10% - 15% of NYC homeless are formally listed as last address "outside NYC". But that likely vastly undercounts, because people might have had a relative or friend where they crashed for a few months, weeks... just long enough to get addresses for a few ids/bills to be switched over.

There simply isn't any more cheap land with good public transit infrastructure for new low cost housing, a huge low-skilled (often illegal) immigrant population, and no one wants to face reality.