Re:We’re sorry, and we’re not rolling out the fees change
by xocyabencl on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @05:27PM
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It's simple to explain in the context of this discussion. But probably doesn't seem as simple to the average user, who wants to donate $1 to a creator, and will feel like some kind of scam is going on if they are asked to add $10 to their Patreon balance first.
Re:We’re sorry, and we’re not rolling out the fees change
by xocyabencl on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @08:40PM
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Thinking about it some more, Patreon may end up eating the additional fees for the first payment (for CUF posts), increasing their cut a bit on other posts to make up for that, then aggregating the recurring charges.
Re:We’re sorry, and we’re not rolling out the fees change
by radix07 on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @05:13PM
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I am guessing they can make more off of an increased number of credit card transactions with some sort of deal with Stripe or whomever. It also allows them to obscure when and how much they are getting paid when it really doesn't need to be that complicated.
Re:We’re sorry, and we’re not rolling out the fees change
by hobarrera on Thursday December 14, 2017 @07:31AM
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If I want to donate $1 per month to somebody, cashing out $20 in advance is quite a bit -- it'd probably discourage a lot of people, since the initial investment is too much.
Re:We’re sorry, and we’re not rolling out the fees change
by mratzloff on Sunday December 17, 2017 @08:47AM
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It was just an example. It could be whatever the user wants to pay; since they're paying the fees for each transaction, it makes sense to keep some money in a wallet.
Re:We’re sorry, and we’re not rolling out the fees change
by simonh on Thursday December 14, 2017 @03:34AM
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> A patron adds $20 to a wallet and pays a low transaction fee.
I wonder if they have problems with anti money laundering regulations? Financial transactions are supposed to clearly indicate the beneficiary. If you're paying into a wallet that gets divvied up later, that's not possible so showing the paper trail of who benefits gets difficult.
Re:We’re sorry, and we’re not rolling out the fees change
by jdmichal on Thursday December 14, 2017 @10:11AM
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How do those look now? I imagine the beneficiary of the transaction is clearly Patreon. The fact that they happen to have another transaction that pays money to someone else is fine. I mean, we don't expect to have to write several checks to various patients and families when we give money to St Jude. Or, more interestingly, look at how escrow works in a real estate deal, where the buyer and seller transactions go to the escrow company, which is then responsible for distributing it to the various parties.
Now, since it's basically acting as an escrow payment, Patreon might have some laws restricting what it can do with that money while it's holding it. For instance, they likely cannot legally earn interest on that money. Similar to how the security deposit held for a rental cannot yield interest unless that interest is paid to the renter.
What am I missing?