A list of ways to “Break the Internet” for the 48 hours before the FCC vote

Re:A list of ways to “Break the Internet” for the 48 hours b... by esaym on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @06:09PM (#15910363)

But with NN in place, we still have caps. So what the heck are you talking about?

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Re:A list of ways to “Break the Internet” for the 48 hours b... by sillysaurus3 on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @06:16PM (#15910417)

Repeal NN => youtube/netflix no longer counts toward cap => cap no longer causes problems.

Some ISPs (verizon?) do similar things, where if you use their app then you're allowed to stream as much as you want. But I'm not sure whether that runs afoul of neutrality laws.

This is admittedly a weak argument, since companies would end up eating the cost, further entrenching the existing monopolies. But they were looking for arguments in favor of NN.

There are other contexts where non-neutrality might be useful: A local startup once tried to roll out a lower-latency service for gaming, based on intelligent routing. It was unlikely to succeed, but even if it were technically possible it would definitely violate NN to be prioritizing/rerouting certain classes of traffic.

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Re:A list of ways to “Break the Internet” for the 48 hours b... by cracell on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @06:22PM (#15910467)

> It was unlikely to succeed, but even if it were technically possible it would definitely violate NN to be prioritizing/rerouting certain classes of traffic.

This is not true at all.

Net neutrality rules allow for "Reasonable Network Management" which includes prioritizing classes of traffic. Here's a discussion on it https://www.reddit.com/r/networking/comments/6nddmx/does_net...

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Re:A list of ways to “Break the Internet” for the 48 hours b... by SilasX on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @07:12PM (#15910792)

That doesn't seem to address the natural follow-up: what stops me from claiming all my traffic is VoIP so it gets processed faster? Is there some offsetting downside that disincentivizes someone from labeling it that way? (something like "any request for lower latency will also reduce your throughput, so don't call it VoIP if you really care about the overall transfer rate)

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Re:A list of ways to “Break the Internet” for the 48 hours b... by nitrogen on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @12:25AM (#15912225)

It's fairly straightforward: everyone gets high priority up to X mbits/s with no upstream oversubscription. Everyone gets best effort up to their last mile speed after that. If there's still available bandwidth, everyone gets idle-only traffic without a cap.

You could add more priorities in between, etc. as needed.

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Re:A list of ways to “Break the Internet” for the 48 hours b... by SilasX on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @02:11PM (#15916651)

Then that just means everyone will call their first X mbit/s "high priority" and then relative priorities are unaffected and nothing can be privileged.

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Re:A list of ways to “Break the Internet” for the 48 hours b... by nitrogen on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @06:49PM (#15918788)

That makes no sense. The first X mbit/s will be privileged. If you waste your priority allotment on torrents instead of voip that's your choice, and that choice doesn't affect anybody else.

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Re:A list of ways to “Break the Internet” for the 48 hours b... by Nition on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @07:21PM (#15910840)

They mean the ISP can say "streaming from Netflix doesn't count towards your data cap!", either as a free bonus or at least as a cheap add-on option.

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