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Re:College Presidents Making $1M Rise with Tuition and Stude... by geofft on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @10:46AM (#15906365)
You make a very good point, but these students also generally get scholarships to college, which is not an insignificant form of compensation at all - especially given how much having a college degree matters for future lifetime earnings.
Re:College Presidents Making $1M Rise with Tuition and Stude... by avprpl on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @10:50AM (#15906401)
The graduation rate for those athletes tends to be quite low overall though, so not all of them get that benefit.
Re:College Presidents Making $1M Rise with Tuition and Stude... by tomschlick on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @10:55AM (#15906456)
That's their own fault. If you're given a free/mostly free ride you should take advantage of it.
Re:College Presidents Making $1M Rise with Tuition and Stude... by icebraining on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @11:25AM (#15906780)
It's not free if they're working for it. And that work may impede said studies: http://uk.businessinsider.com/college-student-athletes-spend...
Re:College Presidents Making $1M Rise with Tuition and Stude... by paultopia on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @07:48PM (#15911007)
plus the concussions.
Re:College Presidents Making $1M Rise with Tuition and Stude... by gbacon on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @11:08AM (#15906601)
What figures do you have? How do you count those who leave early to compete professionally?
Re:College Presidents Making $1M Rise with Tuition and Stude... by cujo on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @11:32AM (#15906866)
256 players get drafted every year. There are 124 DI football teams with a max of 85 scholarships per year. If every player made it to their senior year, and the draft only took seniors, and every class was the same size, a player would have < 10% chance of getting drafted. That's a lot of "ifs" just make it to the pro level, and that does NOT get you paid!

That says nothing of the odds of actually making a roster in year one, and says even less of sticking around the league long enough for those big paydays to set you up after retirement.

Basically, if you're playing the odds, the expected value of a college football scholarship isn't bolstered much by the professional payday. Nearly all the value is in that college degree (paid for by scholarship). So graduating with a degree that you can turn into a career is the best play BY FAR.

That takes us to graduation rates. These seem to be fudged a bit since, well, it's in the programs' interests to hide poor performance. You can do your own digging. Lots of articles about this, and it's not terribly great. The NCAA has their bookeeping, the football programs have theirs, and most expert agree that neither counts accurately. Best case, graduation rates are in line with general student graduation rates. Worst case, not even close.

Re:College Presidents Making $1M Rise with Tuition and Stude... by dsfyu404ed on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @11:23AM (#15906763)
Lower than students of similar economic backgrounds who spend a similar number of hours working after you correct for field of study?
Re:College Presidents Making $1M Rise with Tuition and Stude... by kurthr on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @11:23AM (#15906760)
But the parent point was that the coaches/programs paid for themselves, but if you have to figure in 100 scholarships at $10-50k/yr that's $10-50M ignoring the cost of the stadium. I don't see most (>50%) Div1 teams making back that kind of money from their Alumni.

The best argument I can see is that this is an outreach program for minority and under-privileged youth. The problem with that is the brain-damage that football causes.

Re:College Presidents Making $1M Rise with Tuition and Stude... by piva00 on Wednesday December 13, 2017 @04:28AM (#15913116)
Not when these athletes are tied to their performance and can lose their scholarships, also not when they are forced to study easy classes to keep playing instead of studying.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/10/opinion/nocera-football-an...