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Re:6-year-old made $11M in one year reviewing toys on YouTube by jdavis703 on Monday December 11, 2017 @05:35PM (#15901284)
My mother solved the TV problem easily: don't have a TV in the house. Of course cellphones are now TVs, so that's a bit harder. But -- and I know I'll get down votes for writing this -- you as a parent are supposed to be in control. If I cried over something dumb like this, I'd absolutely be having a painfully intimate moment with a ruler, belt or hand. I say this as a 27 year old: these days parents are afraid to physically discipline their kids, and then wonder what's wrong with their kids.
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Re:6-year-old made $11M in one year reviewing toys on YouTube by automatoney on Monday December 11, 2017 @05:44PM (#15901365)
Consensus among scientists seems to be that physical discipline is less effective.

http://www.apa.org/monitor/2012/04/spanking.aspx

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Re:6-year-old made $11M in one year reviewing toys on YouTube by ovulator on Monday December 11, 2017 @05:53PM (#15901449)
What does hitting your kid when they cry resolve? A kid doesn't get to watch TV. They cry. They still don't get to watch TV. They get used to it and stop crying. Why does hitting need to be involved?

Does your boss hit you when your less productive at work?

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Re:6-year-old made $11M in one year reviewing toys on YouTube by CobrastanJorji on Monday December 11, 2017 @05:50PM (#15901426)
I think we have arrived at a significant culture clash.

I believe that whipping children is quite bad and, on its face, substantially worse than allowing children to watch videos of other children happily playing with toys.

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Re:6-year-old made $11M in one year reviewing toys on YouTube by sjg007 on Monday December 11, 2017 @05:54PM (#15901455)
Violence begets violence. Using violence teaches kids to be violent, aggressive and anti-social even under the guise of discipline. This is well known in child development. It also doesn't work. Even the worst behaviors can be managed effectively without resorting to violence.
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Re:6-year-old made $11M in one year reviewing toys on YouTube by lovich on Monday December 11, 2017 @05:39PM (#15901322)
At least where I live you would get cops called on you for spanking your kid. Lots of people are against it and view it as child abuse, so even if you view it as acceptable society will punish you for carrying out the corporal punishment.
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Re:6-year-old made $11M in one year reviewing toys on YouTube by thenewwazoo on Monday December 11, 2017 @05:42PM (#15901350)
Study after study has shown that spanking kids has detrimental effects on behavior later on. The solution you're advocating is the exact same trade-off you're deriding: gaining compliance now for negative consequences later.
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Re:6-year-old made $11M in one year reviewing toys on YouTube by lovich on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @09:21AM (#15905692)
I'm advocating nothing, as I don't really have a personal opinion on soanking. OP implied that people didn't spank their kids out of ignorance. I was just pointing out that there are forces preventing people from spanking their kids, even if they want to do so
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Re:6-year-old made $11M in one year reviewing toys on YouTube by dragonwriter on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @10:03AM (#15905996)
> If I cried over something dumb like this, I'd absolutely be having a painfully intimate moment with a ruler, belt or hand

Children, especially very young children, cry over dumb things; it's normal and expected and beating them for it is both cruel and (as mountains of evidence have shown) counterproductive developmentally.

That's not to say parents should give in to tantrums, they should not. But there is a vast space between giving in to tantrums and beating children for them, and it's somewhere in that space that good parenting lies.

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Re:6-year-old made $11M in one year reviewing toys on YouTube by anigbrowl on Monday December 11, 2017 @06:16PM (#15901648)
Yeah I had parents that thought way. Eventually I had enough of it and gave it right back to them. Think about that before you start a family.
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Re:6-year-old made $11M in one year reviewing toys on YouTube by potta_coffee on Monday December 11, 2017 @05:39PM (#15901324)
This is absolutely right, but we live in a neutered society. Parents are absolutely worried about having the cops called on them if they strike their children, even in a an appropriate disciplinary manner. Also we've had years of experts telling us not to discipline our children. Result, unruly children who become unruly adults.
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Re:6-year-old made $11M in one year reviewing toys on YouTube by JustClark on Monday December 11, 2017 @05:53PM (#15901447)
So if I don't "strike" my children, I'm not disciplining them? My kids would beg to differ. They are incredibly well-behaved, and I have never physically hurt them as punishment.
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Re:6-year-old made $11M in one year reviewing toys on YouTube by buerkle on Monday December 11, 2017 @05:45PM (#15901376)
You can discipline without resorting to violence. People do it everyday in school, workplace, and all manners of life. I'm not sure why violent discipline is ok when it comes to children.
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Re:6-year-old made $11M in one year reviewing toys on YouTube by rayiner on Monday December 11, 2017 @05:47PM (#15901399)
I'm not up to date on the research on corporal punishment, but isn't the obvious distinction that adults can respond to rational incentives, and children cannot?
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Re:6-year-old made $11M in one year reviewing toys on YouTube by pen2l on Monday December 11, 2017 @09:24PM (#15902579)
Scientists seem to take a strong stand against corporal punishment, but I do have to say, as an Asian dude I know _lots_ of Asian people (well really everyone from Asia) who are brilliant (engineers, surgeons, businessmen) and seem mentally fine and well and they were disciplined physically both at home and school.

My pet theory is that since in school environments physical punishment was distributed "equally", that's not as bad.

I really wonder how far back corporal punishment dates in the west, and whether brilliant people like Einstein ever received physical punishment.

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Re:6-year-old made $11M in one year reviewing toys on YouTube by buerkle on Monday December 11, 2017 @05:54PM (#15901458)
How is that obvious? I have two kids that respond quite well to rational incentives. On the other hand some adults I know respond to irrational incentives all the time.
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Re:6-year-old made $11M in one year reviewing toys on YouTube by kevindqc on Monday December 11, 2017 @05:56PM (#15901470)
http://www.apa.org/monitor/2012/04/spanking.aspx
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Re:6-year-old made $11M in one year reviewing toys on YouTube by dragonwriter on Tuesday December 12, 2017 @10:06AM (#15906022)
That is a difference (well past the teens, even, to an extent), and even without the piles of research on the harmful effects of corporal punishment on children, it should be immediately obvious from that difference why corporal punishment of children (whose entire theory is demonstrating an unacceptably high cost of the course of action) makes less, not more, sense than corporal punishment of adults.
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Re:6-year-old made $11M in one year reviewing toys on YouTube by sjg007 on Monday December 11, 2017 @05:57PM (#15901478)
Children are absolutely rational when you present the incentives appropriately.
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Re:6-year-old made $11M in one year reviewing toys on YouTube by jjeaff on Monday December 11, 2017 @05:56PM (#15901471)
I once saw a mother in a grocery store with her two little ones in the cart. The older child smacked the smaller one. The mother quickly smacked the older child and said emphatically "We! Don't! Hit!"

It doesn't take a scientific study to realize that teaching children not to be violent by punishing them with violence is confusing. Especially to a small child.

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Re:6-year-old made $11M in one year reviewing toys on YouTube by 0xdeadbeefbabe on Monday December 11, 2017 @06:22PM (#15901692)
She was just too tired to be logical.
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Re:6-year-old made $11M in one year reviewing toys on YouTube by usaphp on Monday December 11, 2017 @05:47PM (#15901404)
And what makes you think that the generation of “spanked” kids grew up as a well behaving individuals? As far as I see there is less violence nowadays compared to times before
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Re:6-year-old made $11M in one year reviewing toys on YouTube by rayiner on Monday December 11, 2017 @05:49PM (#15901414)
Violent crime is down from the 1990's, but still double what it was in the 1950's: http://www.newgeography.com/content/003799-crime-down-urban-....
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Re:6-year-old made $11M in one year reviewing toys on YouTube by CalChris on Monday December 11, 2017 @11:10PM (#15902936)
Your cite starts in the 60s not the 50s and it is for total crime rather than violent crime. Violent crime is about the same now as it was in the 60s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States

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