Where is that temperature data from? The linked NOAA website only has data up to October 2017: https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/dv/iadv/graph.php?code=BRW&pro...

It also sounds like you are downplaying the effects of climate change, in contradiction with the data displayed in the article, which is bound to get downvotes.

Thanks. I'm getting the temperature number from the graphs in the article.

Here's one, showing Barrow temperature vs sea ice: https://www.climate.gov/sites/default/files/barrow-temp-vs-n...

But the graph shows at least 25 degrees differece, whereas you claim only 2.5 degrees in your parent post!

1998 was the previous high average in the last 20 years. Look in the bottom right side of the graph I linked to.

I see, I've been looking at 1988, isn't it more interesting, looking for the biggest difference, not for the smallest one? Why do you believe is the small difference supposed to trigger anything? Can you quote something relevant?

I compared this high monthly average to the previous high average, a small difference as you said, because the headline sounded like extreme heat at Barrow overwhelmed measuring hardware, in contrast to the actual article that tells us that the breakage was in the data import code for a report - stemming from a programmer's two incorrect assumptions about the world.

(These two being that nearby stations' temperatures would rise and fall together, and that all stations would have nearby stations.)

From the article, the only change they are making to fix this breakage is to reduce the strength of these two assumptions for far north stations.

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The popular perception is that the currently measured global warming means that every part of the globe is getting warmer at the same rate, all year long. The reality is that Barrow is getting a tiny bit warmer in the summer, a lot warmer than it used to be in the winter, and the rest of Alaska that we are measuring isn't seeing the same scale of changes.

That's totally cool - it's just not the popular perception on either side of the debate. Here's a relevant XKCD for real life science https://xkcd.com/683/

OK, so do we agree that looking for the "smallest difference" on the graph like you did has actually no practical use in analyzing the data?

Can you also please cite your source that it's a "data import code" problem as you claim above? I don't see it in the article and I understand the article differently, I consider the assumptions they used being correct ones for the given data sources.

Edit: I see your edit and I don't agree with your claim "it's just not the popular perception on either side of the debate" -- "it should warm the same everywhere" is only actively used by the "deniers" even if no scientist ever made such a claim:

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/does-global...

https://www.treehugger.com/natural-sciences/uks-met-office-r...

etc.

There is sub-hourly (5 min) data for a station near Barrow here, since 2006:

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/crn/qcdatasets.html

HN moderation is notoriously fickle and is a core weakness of this site. I wouldn't let the downvotes get you down.

Yeah, not bothered at all, just wondering if I missed something.

I’ve found climate stuff attracts the emotional vote.

Ah, don’t sweat the popularity contest. No-one will lie on their deathbed wishing they had more upvotes.