Re:Fake Steve Jobs jokingly misquotes PG's recent essay
by admanrs on Wednesday April 09, 2008 @03:13PM
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um yeah... i misread the article, didnt think he correctly linked to you, just thought he called you a "non-famous programmer dude". sorry, should have been more thorough (but i never imaged this post would get ranked so high -- who knew)
just an announcement, fakepaul.blogspot.com is open
Re:Fake Steve Jobs jokingly misquotes PG's recent essay
by procrastitron on Wednesday April 09, 2008 @01:27PM
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Fake Steve is a troll, and a bad one at that. His posts are childish, but that's not the real problem with them. They consistently lack any real insight. Any exposure he receives is just due to his immature writing.
Can we now accept that he only got people's attention using classic trolling techniques and go back to ignoring him?
Re:Fake Steve Jobs jokingly misquotes PG's recent essay
by procrastitron on Wednesday April 09, 2008 @02:12PM
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Hm... you're right. Those are very insightful. Unfortunately, the two examples you came up with are 3 months apart, and fake steve posts new blog entries all the time. My experience has been that every time I see a link to one of his posts, and I read it hoping that this time he'll impress me, I keep being disappointed.
However, I notice that the two posts you point out are much more business related than technology related. Since the real fake steve is a business reporter, perhaps he shines when he's in his element and falls flat when he strays out of it.
Re:Fake Steve Jobs jokingly misquotes PG's recent essay
by raganwald on Wednesday April 09, 2008 @02:19PM
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"Unfortunately, the two examples you came up with are 3 months apart, and fake steve posts new blog entries all the time."
You don't like most of his posts, but it's also the case that most of his posts are not on the HN front page. And thus, we have the value proposition for Hacker News: instead of filtering based on the author, filter based on the votes here.
Re:Fake Steve Jobs jokingly misquotes PG's recent essay
by raganwald on Wednesday April 09, 2008 @02:39PM
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It's all statistics. My suggestion is that HN is supposed to be a better filter than just ignoring bloggers who infrequently post good things.
And this off to a long digression about the opportunity cost of reading the bad articles vs. the benefit of reading the good ones and on and on...
But yeah, it's not perfect. If anything, if there were no articles you disliked on the front page, then HN would probably be too conservative a filter.
Re:Fake Steve Jobs jokingly misquotes PG's recent essay
by procrastitron on Wednesday April 09, 2008 @02:16PM
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I understand that, and appreciate it if it's done well, but it doesn't stand on its own. Trolls are like lies, the best ones have a hint of truth to them. Most of Fake Steve's posts that I have read miss that crucial element.
Re:Fake Steve Jobs jokingly misquotes PG's recent essay
by allenbrunson on Wednesday April 09, 2008 @01:39PM
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he uses some troll-like techniques, to be sure, but i still enjoy the writing, most of the time. he's been able to get at the truth from an oblique angle that nobody else has tried before. fake steve has real admiration for the real steve, which pokes through sometimes.
just an announcement, fakepaul.blogspot.com is open
Can we now accept that he only got people's attention using classic trolling techniques and go back to ignoring him?
http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2008/02/ballmer-im-completely-...
http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2007/11/this-writers-strike-cr...
Are both quite insightful, I think. Most of the time he's just going for a laugh, but there are often quite observant commentaries on the industry.
However, I notice that the two posts you point out are much more business related than technology related. Since the real fake steve is a business reporter, perhaps he shines when he's in his element and falls flat when he strays out of it.
You don't like most of his posts, but it's also the case that most of his posts are not on the HN front page. And thus, we have the value proposition for Hacker News: instead of filtering based on the author, filter based on the votes here.
And this off to a long digression about the opportunity cost of reading the bad articles vs. the benefit of reading the good ones and on and on...
But yeah, it's not perfect. If anything, if there were no articles you disliked on the front page, then HN would probably be too conservative a filter.
however, this particular story is just silly fluff. thought news.yc might get a kick out of it though