Re:A Translator’s Reckoning with the Women of the Odyssey
by quantumofmalice on Saturday December 09, 2017 @05:47PM
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There is strong historical evidence for civilizational cycles.
Re:A Translator’s Reckoning with the Women of the Odyssey
by dragonwriter on Saturday December 09, 2017 @06:28PM
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Perhaps, but there's not for an association between most of the things people casually refer to as signs of civilization decline and such decline.
Re:A Translator’s Reckoning with the Women of the Odyssey
by gt_ on Saturday December 09, 2017 @06:31PM
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If chaos is an antonym to civilization, this might be reconsidered.
Re:A Translator’s Reckoning with the Women of the Odyssey
by greglindahl on Saturday December 09, 2017 @07:37PM
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Cycles appear in hindsight, sure. Where's the cycle in foresight if everyone always thinks the young appear selfish and without morals?
Re:A Translator’s Reckoning with the Women of the Odyssey
by quantumofmalice on Saturday December 09, 2017 @08:58PM
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There is no historical evidence that everyone always thinks the young appear selfish and without morals. Very often the youth have lead moral revivals (or panics, according to tastes.)
I don't mean to be unpleasant, but the idea that there has always been an oppositional libertine youth culture of selfishness is a modern canard.
Things that are constant at any generation throughout history: the young always appear selfish and without morals; the past is not treated with enough respect; the overall culture is surely in decline. Athenians under Pericles were convinced of these, as were Romans under Augustus.