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Re:A Classic of Soviet Engineering - The Typhoon-class sub by jacquesm on Monday August 09, 2010 @06:40AM (#1587560)
> It's expressed in urban fables like the one about NASA spending millions on space pens while the Russians used pencils

Yes, that's one that's been doing the rounds from before the web.

But it looks like the ISS will pretty soon be relying on Soyuz for its provisioning until Elon Musk will be in a position to provide an alternative for the shuttle flights.

And that's not a mere pen or pencil we're talking about, and it's not a fable.

That's 60's technology still in use today.

Re:A Classic of Soviet Engineering - The Typhoon-class sub by pvg on Monday August 09, 2010 @07:24AM (#1587633)
And that's not a mere pen or pencil we're talking about, and it's not a fable.

Well, we were talking about the Typhoons. A piece of megalomaniac, cripplingly expensive technology that mostly rusts in scrapyards. Also not a fable.

Re:A Classic of Soviet Engineering - The Typhoon-class sub by jacquesm on Monday August 09, 2010 @07:33AM (#1587658)
That's true.

The cripplingly expensive is very apt, in that sense they did more for the Russian people than they did against their intended targets, it is believed that this sort of prestige project hastened the downfall of the USSR considerably and set the conditions for a more democratic form of government.

So in a way maybe it was good that those megalomaniacs did their typhoon project, I'm not sure how much longer they would have been able to hold out otherwise but less seems to be better.

With the specter of the USSR gone as archenemy #1 it seems we have now been duped in to being afraid of terrorists and the spending in the west meanwhile continues unabated.

I wonder if we (as in here in Western Europe, though I'm currently writing this from Romania) will ever have a 'typhoon' project.

Re:A Classic of Soviet Engineering - The Typhoon-class sub by gaius on Monday August 09, 2010 @11:19AM (#1588223)
The EU itself is such a project.
Re:A Classic of Soviet Engineering - The Typhoon-class sub by eru on Monday August 09, 2010 @05:48PM (#1589539)
Depends which part you are looking at. Fortunately, there has been some activity against farm subsidies lately.