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Re:Goldman Sachs Plans to Clear Bitcoin Futures When They Go... by coryl on Thursday December 07, 2017 @05:49PM (#15875126)
If you are short term day trading you're likely to be a victim of pump and dump groups and manipulation.

Going long on high market cap coins with a longer timeline is a relatively safer bet.

Re:Goldman Sachs Plans to Clear Bitcoin Futures When They Go... by curiousgal on Thursday December 07, 2017 @05:52PM (#15875146)
There are fees to any position you hold so even though going long is indeed the safe bet, having a longer timeline requires deep pockets.
Re:Goldman Sachs Plans to Clear Bitcoin Futures When They Go... by bonestamp2 on Thursday December 07, 2017 @06:17PM (#15875287)
You can avoid the fees on some bitcoin exchanges if you're a market maker, and with the volatility that's pretty easy most days. I made a couple 0% fee trades today alone. But, the second part is definitely true... you still need deep pockets to hold a long position.
Re:Goldman Sachs Plans to Clear Bitcoin Futures When They Go... by coryl on Thursday December 07, 2017 @09:08PM (#15876162)
Buy and hold doesn't have any recurring fees. If you look at the opportunity cost between crypto and any other financial security in the market, its an easy decision.
Re:Goldman Sachs Plans to Clear Bitcoin Futures When They Go... by mitchellberry on Friday December 08, 2017 @06:11AM (#15877993)
"Fees"

I see the margin lending rates on some exchanges right now being 0.003% daily. This is for coins that move 10% a day.

Probably fair to assume fees aren't what the traders lose sleep over.

Re:Goldman Sachs Plans to Clear Bitcoin Futures When They Go... by onion2k on Thursday December 07, 2017 @06:22PM (#15875315)
The rogue traders aren't looking for a safer bet.
Re:Goldman Sachs Plans to Clear Bitcoin Futures When They Go... by coryl on Thursday December 07, 2017 @09:02PM (#15876140)
Exactly, which is why the safer bet is going long on high market cap coins, not small volume coins where pump and dumps can cause liquidation events.