Integration tests are a symptom of poor design

Re:Integration tests are a symptom of poor design by maxxxxx on Wednesday December 06, 2017 @06:14PM (#15866054)

A long time ago we had Scott Meyers for a week long workshop. He definitely knew his stuff and showed a lot of real world experience. But with a lot of "gurus" I have my doubts. A lot of advice from Scrum gurus falls apart when it meets reality.

I guess the ultimate advice should be given by people like Linus Torvalds who run large projects.

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Re:Integration tests are a symptom of poor design by throwaway_f8ed on Wednesday December 06, 2017 @06:24PM (#15866111)

I will never question that he knows language and its obscurities, but real world in his case is even more different.

Scott Meyers is a C++ guy. I will bet that nowadays most of C++ programmers are in game development, HFT or other computationally expensive performance oriented areas, and there is this data-oriented design movement which goes against almost everything he ever said. There are entire constructs of language he is proficient in that are never used in real world.

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Re:Integration tests are a symptom of poor design by maxxxxx on Wednesday December 06, 2017 @06:28PM (#15866134)

Back then I was at a C++ shop. He definitely knew how to deal with practical problems and wasn't just a language geek. This was more than 10 years ago so a lot of ideas from then are not fashionable anymore.

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Re:Integration tests are a symptom of poor design by blub on Thursday December 07, 2017 @02:53AM (#15868441)

Data-oriented programming is just one optimisation technique, not a revolutionary design movement.

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