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Re:The suicide rate for farmers in the U.S. is more than dou... by Cuuugi on Wednesday December 06, 2017 @12:10PM (#15862768)
One common feeling (i am from a farming community in Canada) is that tax revenue tends to get siphoned to urban areas.

Politicians focus on bigger voting blocks, while rural communities (in their mind) pay for those promises.

Re:The suicide rate for farmers in the U.S. is more than dou... by scarmig on Wednesday December 06, 2017 @12:18PM (#15862841)
I'm sure that is a common feeling. And it probably varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.

But in the USA, just as coastal areas subsidize inland areas, typically urban areas within a state subsidize the rural areas. Definitely true of California counties, and I'd be very surprised if this wasn't true of any particular state.

Re:The suicide rate for farmers in the U.S. is more than dou... by nitrogen on Wednesday December 06, 2017 @12:25PM (#15862904)
This gets brought up a lot on Hacker News as if it's a bad thing. One, I doubt it's as universally true as people think (I'd wager that in Utah, say, an equal chunk of taxes comes from suburban as urban areas), and two, people who can't afford the cities need places to live and those who can need places to vacation and buy food.
Re:The suicide rate for farmers in the U.S. is more than dou... by JBlue42 on Wednesday December 06, 2017 @12:55PM (#15863208)
I don't see them presenting it in a negative, just a fact, and one not understood in rural areas.

If you believe in wealth distribution, then richer coastal or urban areas should help out their brethren in the rural areas and spread the money around. It's when those rural brethren then attack the better off coastal / urban folks as stealing their money that things become problematic.

Re:The suicide rate for farmers in the U.S. is more than dou... by grasshopperpurp on Thursday December 07, 2017 @09:19AM (#15870126)
Don't forget that red (more rural) states also receive political welfare in the form of the electoral college, so their misguided views carry more weight.
Re:The suicide rate for farmers in the U.S. is more than dou... by JBlue42 on Thursday December 07, 2017 @04:19PM (#15874353)
Good point.

And then complain about being the neglected or down-trodden ones.

Re:The suicide rate for farmers in the U.S. is more than dou... by kazagistar on Wednesday December 06, 2017 @03:14PM (#15864556)
Its not a bad thing. But it is quite annoying that the places who benefit the most from taxes keep trying to abolish them out of a lack of understanding, and also get an oversized influence in terms of voting value to do so.
Re:The suicide rate for farmers in the U.S. is more than dou... by patmcc on Wednesday December 06, 2017 @12:59PM (#15863244)
I don't think subsidizing rural living a bad thing, but I do think rural people thinking "I don't get anything from the government, why should I pay taxes" is a bad thing.
Re:The suicide rate for farmers in the U.S. is more than dou... by scarmig on Wednesday December 06, 2017 @04:52PM (#15865345)
I was responding to a comment that stated that rural folks believe that they subsidize the cities by pointing out that belief was contrary to the reality (at least in the States; I don't know much about Canada's rural vs urban divisions, but I'd guess the dynamics there are similar).

As far as what I prefer: I have no issue subsidizing rural areas, within reason. I support everyone having access to basic infrastructure, healthcare, and education, regardless of where they live. Beyond that, there's no particular reason for government to provide incentives to live in one or the other; let the market sort that out.

Re:The suicide rate for farmers in the U.S. is more than dou... by dsfyu404ed on Wednesday December 06, 2017 @03:59PM (#15864953)
The city slickers don't want to cut checks to a bunch of hicks and the rednecks don't want to give their money to the city slickers and neither wants the other telling them what to do but our tax system ensures that they can't stay out of each other's business.
Re:The suicide rate for farmers in the U.S. is more than dou... by addicted on Wednesday December 06, 2017 @09:07PM (#15867029)
Except the “city slickers” have been cutting checks to the “hicks and rednecks” for decades, and furthermore, the “hicks and rednecks” vote against this and rail on the “city slickers”for doing so, while simultaneously falsely believing they cut chekcks to the “city slickers” and also complaining about any time their checks from the “city slickers”are reduced (try campaigning in Iowa on a platform of reducing farm subsidies).
Re:The suicide rate for farmers in the U.S. is more than dou... by dsfyu404ed on Thursday December 07, 2017 @06:27AM (#15869181)
And the counterpoint to that is that the city slickers do whatever they want when it comes to running the state.

NY-SAFE is a good recent example of the city doing one thing despite the objection (as opposed to apathy) of everywhere else.

Re:The suicide rate for farmers in the U.S. is more than dou... by noxToken on Wednesday December 06, 2017 @12:34PM (#15862977)
Depends on the locale, but sometimes just talking to the city works. If you're in a rural area of a smaller town, the mayor or council may not have reason to go to the rural areas. That can seem like they're getting purposefully neglected.

The reality is that they may not know of the giant pothole on County Road 18 or the rampant littering in certain areas. It may not always work, but informing the local government of issues might get you what you want. After all, you are the constituent that gets those people into office. Let them help you.

Re:The suicide rate for farmers in the U.S. is more than dou... by jacobolus on Wednesday December 06, 2017 @12:38PM (#15863019)
Rural areas usually get more per capita. It's just that density makes services of all sorts easier and more efficient to provide.
Re:The suicide rate for farmers in the U.S. is more than dou... by sbarre on Wednesday December 06, 2017 @12:26PM (#15862913)
What's the feeling about the other side of that, which is industry-specific subsidies?

While not on the same level as the US, Canada still provides significant farm subsidies, which comes from.. tax revenue!