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Re:Portugal’s radical drug policy is working. Why hasn’t the... by scotty79 on Wednesday December 06, 2017 @07:44AM (#15860648)
Even Switzerland.

From wiki about gun laws there:

In 2016, the defence ministry estimated that 2 million privately owned guns are in circulation, which given a population of 8.3 million corresponds to a gun ownership rate of around 24 guns per 100 residents. This is roughly a quarter of the rate in the United States, and lower than that in the neighbouring countries of Germany, and Austria, but about the double of Italy and France.

Quarter of guns per person US has. If US taxed gun manufacturers an used that money to buy back 3/4 of guns off the market it would surely have bit less gun related problems.

Re:Portugal’s radical drug policy is working. Why hasn’t the... by pc86 on Wednesday December 06, 2017 @09:28AM (#15861227)
Switzerland has a gun homicide rate of 0.50 per 100k population. The US rate is approximately 3.53 per 100k population.[0] So this begs the question, if the per capita gun ownership in Switzerland is 1/4th what it is in the US, why is gun homicide 1/7th? Are Americans just more homicidal than the Swiss?

Guns are certainly an issue but not the issue. If you cut American gun ownership by 75% you'd still have more per capita gun crime than Switzerland, why?

[0] Homicides, not all gun deaths. It's important to compare apples to apples.

Re:Portugal’s radical drug policy is working. Why hasn’t the... by optimuspaul on Wednesday December 06, 2017 @10:36AM (#15861848)
You have to dig a little deeper. Swiss gun ownership is primarily guns owned by those in mandatory military service. The have guns, but most do not have ammunition with the guns. The majority of Swiss gun owners simply cannot shoot someone with their guns without first obtaining difficult to obtain ammunition.

Looking at the numbers alone is not enough. Just like looking at the US numbers alone doesn't really tell the real story. Guns are definitely part of the problem, but it's the rest of the culture and economic factors that tells the story of why the US numbers are so high.

Re:Portugal’s radical drug policy is working. Why hasn’t the... by Zak on Wednesday December 06, 2017 @12:51PM (#15863169)
Ammunition is not difficult to obtain in Switzerland. Essentially anyone who can legally possess a gun can buy it from a gun store.

Government-issued ammunition is difficult to take home, but there's plenty of commercial ammunition that will work in the government-issued rifles.

Re:Portugal’s radical drug policy is working. Why hasn’t the... by optimuspaul on Thursday December 07, 2017 @02:32PM (#15873213)
Maybe difficult was too strong of a word. There are plenty of barriers to obtaining both guns and ammunition, far more than in the US.
Re:Portugal’s radical drug policy is working. Why hasn’t the... by Tyrek on Wednesday December 06, 2017 @09:51AM (#15861393)
I don't know if it's fair to say that it's not the issue. Unless we have a crystal ball that will reveal the exact breakdown of causal factors, it certainly seems reasonable to address the big ticket items that we are aware of, and are reasonably sure will have a positive impact on the homicide rate. Let's not let perfect be the enemy of good when it comes to incremental social improvement.
Re:Portugal’s radical drug policy is working. Why hasn’t the... by scotty79 on Wednesday December 06, 2017 @12:25PM (#15862903)
> So this begs the question, if the per capita gun ownership in Switzerland is 1/4th what it is in the US, why is gun homicide 1/7th

Not every relationship has to be linear. Also there might be other factors. They might be easier to spot if you take away 3/4 of all guns in US.

Re:Portugal’s radical drug policy is working. Why hasn’t the... by JoeAltmaier on Wednesday December 06, 2017 @11:37AM (#15862442)
What? The US has 96 out of 100 people owning guns? (24 X 4) I call bad math somewhere
Re:Portugal’s radical drug policy is working. Why hasn’t the... by scotty79 on Wednesday December 06, 2017 @12:21PM (#15862870)
Some people own multiple guns. This statistics just shows how many guns are in the country vs how many people live there not how many people are armed vs total.