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Re:The FastMail Security Mindset by mythz on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @11:20PM (#15858464)
So it's because Google has deep/best skills in security? It automatically applies and makes all their products more secure than everyone else's, even if their design is weakened as a result of their business model? e.g. Does Google's 1st class security team + unencrypted emails + tracking makes it more secure than a company like Proton Mail that's focused on providing Secure mail?

Does that make the claims that Protonmail is more secure than Gmail false? - https://protonmail.com/blog/protonmail-vs-gmail-security/

Re:The FastMail Security Mindset by tptacek on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @11:25PM (#15858489)
Sorry, I missed an important sentence.

${All the things I said previously}. And, Google Mail is one of their flagship products.

Most of what is on that ProtonMail page is nonsensical. The claim that is relevant to the discussion here --- that ProtonMail has a "smaller attack surface" and is thus structurally more secure than Google Mail --- assumes significant facts not in evidence.

See downthread for my response to the claim that using a mail services outside the US somehow insulates you from NSA snooping.