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Re:From Bezos to Walton, Big Investors Back Fund for ‘Flyove... by lotsofpulp on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @08:05AM (#15851457)
The anti-intellectual image is due to the voters of those states. They consistently vote against personal freedoms due to their religiousness, vote against spending money for fellow citizen’s healthcare and education and infrastructure, but are for spending on military, subsidizing stadiums for sports, and tax cuts for corporations. All while claiming they’re fiscally conservative, but actually adding to the deficit.

They are anti net neutrality, anti efforts to combat climate change, and anti marijuana, but pro spending on police and pro asset forfeiture. Also, their legislators have had problems with teaching evolution and/or have wanted to introduce religion into public schools.

It's really an urban vs rural/suburban divide though, but enough to paint basically the states that vote Republican as backwards, because almost every time there a political issue coming up, they seem to be on the opposite side of where most young professionals, especially in science related fields are.

Re:From Bezos to Walton, Big Investors Back Fund for ‘Flyove... by sctb on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @11:08AM (#15852588)
Could we please not take this discussion right into the same old tired partisan politics?
Re:From Bezos to Walton, Big Investors Back Fund for ‘Flyove... by jumpman500 on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @09:23AM (#15851852)
You're just describing political positions you disagree with. Nothing you said is disproportionately midwestern. I'd need to see polls to believe that they hold these positions. Midwest has been pretty purple in many of the past elections.

How has the midwest show themselves to be anti net neutrality? How have they shown themselves to be anti marijuana? Illinois and Michigan are in talks of legalizing it, and already have very light penalties on having it in small amounts. Subsidizing stadiums for sport? St Louis just lost the Rams to LA for refusing to build a stadium.

I think you need to stop painting anyone that has voted Republican in the past decade as a political enemy. Most of those issues you stated don't even seem that partisan.

Re:From Bezos to Walton, Big Investors Back Fund for ‘Flyove... by tdb7893 on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @09:20AM (#15851826)
I've lived on the Midwest pretty much my whole life and Illinois and Minnesota are generally Democrat states with large city populations. The other state I've lived in, Iowa, historically has been pretty tolerant (but that is changing recently) and was the fourth state to legalize gay marriage. I know people from a lot of small towns where they were taught evolution and were not anti-intellectual at all. The Midwest covers an absolutely huge area and while some people follow this stereotype probably the majority of people in the Midwest don't.
Re:From Bezos to Walton, Big Investors Back Fund for ‘Flyove... by 1787 on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @08:27AM (#15851544)
You've shown that many midwesterners are anti-progressive, but that is not the same thing as anti-intellectual. Furthermore, the optics of where they stand relative to young professionals in the sciences are just that - optics that don't necessarily reflect anything. Consider student movements in the past that haven't gone anywhere or were really misguided in hindsight (there are enough).
Re:From Bezos to Walton, Big Investors Back Fund for ‘Flyove... by lotsofpulp on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @08:41AM (#15851618)
My response is in the context of anti intellectualism being an odd criticism for why tech startups might not consider Midwest. There are other factors of course, but my reasons, in my experience, are big reasons why employees tech startups would want don't want the Midwest due to anti intellectualism.
Re:From Bezos to Walton, Big Investors Back Fund for ‘Flyove... by H1Supreme on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @09:15AM (#15851785)
I'd argue that it's both anti-progressive and anti-intellectual. I live in a stereotypical flyover area, and the sentiment is spot on. People vote against things that would clearly help them, because that's what everyone at church is doing.

This isn't an overstatement either. I know these people. Their opinions are what someone told them to think. Almost completely void of logic. Fox news said some shit, so it must be true! This sounds exaggerated. It isn't.

Some guy was running for office and totally did the "Jesus, show me the way" campaign. Crosses on his election signs, the whole nine yards. He was neck in neck with the incumbent (who was well liked, I might add) just based on this crap. Until he got arrested for nearly beating a guy to death. Not very Jesus of him, is it?

Re:From Bezos to Walton, Big Investors Back Fund for ‘Flyove... by Helmet on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @09:36AM (#15851919)
I live in a stereotypical flyover area, and the sentiment is spot on.

As have I, and the sentiment is a silly caricature.

People vote against things that would clearly help them, because that's what everyone at church is doing.

Can you list some of these things?

As far as I can tell, the progressive legislative agenda has done nil to help anyone in the flyover country. Obamacare is a disaster, factories have been shuttered because they can't compete in a globalized economy (neither the left or right are at fault here), and progressive cultural values do not align with the moral and ethical stances of these people.

Not to mention, they are continually mocked, condescended too, and made fun of by coastal elites.

This isn't an overstatement either. I know these people.

I know them too, and you've painted a caricature.

Their opinions are what someone told them to think. Almost completely void of logic. Fox news said some shit, so it must be true! This sounds exaggerated. It isn't.

Oh, like almost every mainstream liberal that I know? CNN, ABC or MSNBC told them some shit, so it must be true.

Some guy was running for office and totally did the "Jesus, show me the way" campaign. Crosses on his election signs, the whole nine yards. He was neck in neck with the incumbent (who was well liked, I might add) just based on this crap. Until he got arrested for nearly beating a guy to death. Not very Jesus of him, is it?

So some crazy guy ran for office and lost. What's your point?

Re:From Bezos to Walton, Big Investors Back Fund for ‘Flyove... by losvedir on Tuesday December 05, 2017 @08:57AM (#15851697)
> problems with teaching evolution

This is literally the only thing in your whole list that is "anti-intellectual". Everything else just stems from a different set of values than your own.