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Re:Taking Children Seriously by quickthrower2 on Sunday December 03, 2017 @10:35PM (#15841284)
> "well, daddy, one other boy just had one and he got the ice cream, so I wanted to see if that would work"

Pretty advanced for a 2 year old.

With 2 year olds in general, and any discipline advice: YMMV for everyone because they are very unpredictable at that age.

Any "I did this with my 2 yr old" and "I got this result" causality should be taken with a pinch of salt.

Re:Taking Children Seriously by MaurizioPz on Monday December 04, 2017 @04:47AM (#15842733)
I can assure you that young children are way smarter that most give them credit. They can pattern match pretty quickly.
Re:Taking Children Seriously by quickthrower2 on Monday December 04, 2017 @04:57PM (#15847948)
> "I wanted to see if that would work"

This seems advanced to me. Of course this could be a stock phrase copied from an adult. My 2 year old does this a lot and it makes her sound grown up. As an adult I use confirmation bias to say "yup she's smart".

Re:Taking Children Seriously by tarboreus on Monday December 04, 2017 @11:38PM (#15849765)
2-year-olds are definitely capable of this kind of thinking. The ability to explain it and introspect is more rare.
Re:Taking Children Seriously by anon-20171203A on Monday December 04, 2017 @03:14PM (#15847003)
Yes, she is precocious. The story I presented was a story; I explained to the best of my recollection what happened so that it may be used at a data point. Every situation is different and if the story helps someone, that is fantastic.

I'm more interested in how observers could be more helpful in these situations. When I see children out of control and an overwhelmed parent, I will sometimes try to help by de-escalating. In fact, I'm coming to think that we should learn as a culture how to talk to other people's children directly in a way that grows community and mutual respect. Children will often listen more intently to another parent (or, even better, especially a slightly older child).