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Re:If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on... by seasonalgrit on Saturday December 02, 2017 @06:51PM (#15835054)
" If this were any other manufacturer, they would be burnt at the stake."

Nah. Look at Samsung: you can make a TV that spies on you, a washing machine that explodes, and a smartphone that spontaneously catches on fire. And then go take a look at how their stock is doing this year.

We've reached the pavlovian phase of western consumer culture: we'll just keep on buying and buying and buying, no matter what.

Re:If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on... by carlivar on Saturday December 02, 2017 @10:38PM (#15835826)
I think the difference is that these problems are magnified in the press but are still rather rare. It is first hand experience that breaks the pavlovian cycle.

Americans started buying Japanese cars because so many of them had direct poor experiences with American quality in the 70's to 90's.

I don't think that has necessarily happened with Samsung, yet.

Re:If your iOS 11 device unexpectedly restarts repeatedly on... by perfectstorm on Sunday December 03, 2017 @03:40AM (#15836663)
> Nah. Look at Samsung: ... and a smartphone that spontaneously catches on fire.

they did get a lot of bad PR for that and it was running joke in the tech industry and it still is even though they have recalled the faulty devices.