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Re:US Senate passes sweeping tax overhaul bill by mbaha on Saturday December 02, 2017 @03:53AM (#15831017)
Following your logic, China is better off because instead of having one party protesting but failing to reject a law promoted by the elections-winning other party, it's just better to have one single party control everything.

Sorry but I find this just mindblowing.

Re:US Senate passes sweeping tax overhaul bill by Alacart on Saturday December 02, 2017 @04:17AM (#15831100)
The parent comment is saying that the economic success of China should be encouraging America to step it's game up, not that it should become a single party system.
Re:US Senate passes sweeping tax overhaul bill by mbaha on Saturday December 02, 2017 @06:12AM (#15831412)
I'd argue that berating economic success as the main metric for measuring a country's success is precisely what is slowly but surely eroding the West's precious institutions.

Since when people just want to live comfortable lives and leave their collective fate to be decided by a minority whose interests do not necessarily align with the people's interests (otherwise, they would just allow fair elections).

Small example: of course, country-wide surveillance à la China would lead to "economic success", do you think it's criticized because it would lead to mass poverty ?

It would lead to a perfectly stable future for the population, with ever improving quality of life and security. The problem, as you may guess, lies elsewhere.

Re:US Senate passes sweeping tax overhaul bill by spuz on Saturday December 02, 2017 @04:22AM (#15831121)
The person you replied to does not say that China's political system is better in any way, simply that if such a system (single party authoritarian government) can out develop the US then there must be some serious improvements to be had for the US's democratic system.

In other words, if China can give their people what they want without fair elections or due process or freedom from corruption then our democratic system which ostensibly includes those things must be seriously broken. That does not mean authoritarianism is better. At least that's how I read the comment.

Re:US Senate passes sweeping tax overhaul bill by mbaha on Saturday December 02, 2017 @06:04AM (#15831389)
I have to admit I slightly misread the parent comment, but still: as long it's not a democracy, how can you consider that China "can give their people what they want".

The "they" cannot be referring the people of China, or the majority because China is just not a democracy.

This is the main difference between a country which holds free elections every 4 years, and a single-party country.

Re:US Senate passes sweeping tax overhaul bill by nojvek on Saturday December 02, 2017 @01:11PM (#15833140)
Chinese middle class is booming. US is going through the opposite.
Re:US Senate passes sweeping tax overhaul bill by beisner on Saturday December 02, 2017 @04:19AM (#15831109)
I’d be the first to say there are a bunch of serious problems posed by the one-party system in China, but getting important projects done quickly is not one of them.