DOJ: We Want Martin Shkreli’s Enigma Machine, Wu-Tang Album, and $7.3M

Re:DOJ: We Want Martin Shkreli’s Enigma Machine, Wu-Tang Alb... by AdamJacobMuller on Friday December 01, 2017 @11:53PM (#15830228)

I don't even find him to be particularly loathsome, really.

The thing is, Shkreli is a provocateur. He says and does things to elicit a reaction from people. He very clearly said one too many stupid things and as a result of it, they are throwing the book at him VERY hard here.

Whereas with someone else in his position, there probably would have been a quiet settlement for time served with little to no fines (as there are no real damages that I can see) there's literally no way that they can do that here. There are WAY too many eyes on this case for them to cut him a deal even if such a deal is de rigueur and that is 100% Shkreli's fault. He pushed and he pushed and he pushed till he built up so much bad karma that he literally ended up in jail. Even when he does things that, when you look into them REALLY deeply are perhaps good (like the Epi-Pen fiasco), he comes off 100% as an arrogant asshole who deserves condemnation anyway.

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Re:DOJ: We Want Martin Shkreli’s Enigma Machine, Wu-Tang Alb... by 1000units on Saturday December 02, 2017 @12:12AM (#15830287)

Funnily enough, I think his issue is he's too principled. He hadn't allowed himself to be silenced by people he rightfully viewed as misinformed or poorly motivated. He's very proud and stubborn, and it'd be dishonest to say he doesn't deserve it.

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Re:DOJ: We Want Martin Shkreli’s Enigma Machine, Wu-Tang Alb... by AdamJacobMuller on Saturday December 02, 2017 @12:32AM (#15830355)

You can be principled and not an asshole about it. Shkreli is both.

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Re:DOJ: We Want Martin Shkreli’s Enigma Machine, Wu-Tang Alb... by PhasmaFelis on Sunday December 03, 2017 @08:03AM (#15837403)

> I don't even find him to be particularly loathsome, really. The thing is, Shkreli is a provocateur. He says and does things to elicit a reaction from people.

I'd like to expand on my previous response: Saying things you don't believe for no better reason than that you enjoy pissing people off is loathsome. Whether or not he deserves jail time, he's still an asshole, and "provocateur" seems unnecessarily euphemistic.

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Re:DOJ: We Want Martin Shkreli’s Enigma Machine, Wu-Tang Alb... by PhasmaFelis on Saturday December 02, 2017 @07:34AM (#15831613)

> The thing is, Shkreli is a provocateur. He says and does things to elicit a reaction from people.

The word you're looking for is "troll."

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Re:DOJ: We Want Martin Shkreli’s Enigma Machine, Wu-Tang Alb... by Doctor_Fegg on Saturday December 02, 2017 @03:11PM (#15833800)

Yes - the original Usenet definition of the word, before it was genericised to just be a synonym for “griefer”.

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Re:DOJ: We Want Martin Shkreli’s Enigma Machine, Wu-Tang Alb... by aklemm on Saturday December 02, 2017 @12:12AM (#15830284)

Provocateurs wreak havoc by emboldening the idiots that love them. That's enough to make an example of him.

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Re:DOJ: We Want Martin Shkreli’s Enigma Machine, Wu-Tang Alb... by AdamJacobMuller on Saturday December 02, 2017 @12:32AM (#15830358)

People shouldn't be judged, or jailed, for the actions of others.

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Re:DOJ: We Want Martin Shkreli’s Enigma Machine, Wu-Tang Alb... by Larrikin on Saturday December 02, 2017 @12:55AM (#15830438)

When you encourage people to commit a crime, and offer money for said crime, you should absolutely be jailed and judged for that.

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