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Re:GM says it will put fleets of self-driving cars in cities... by madengr on Friday December 01, 2017 @01:40PM (#15826091)
I have a 2015 leaf. Put in ECO mode, then switch to B (braking) instead of D (drive). Plenty of regen for 1 pedal driving. Also, tapping the brake turns on the regen in normal D mode, without moving the brake calipers.

Supposedly, there is a recall mandated by NTSB that will mess up this 1 pedal driving. The NTSB does not like it because the brake lights do not turn on. I'm not having that done.

What I don't like is the "creep" that they put in to emulate an automatic (torque converter).

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Re:GM says it will put fleets of self-driving cars in cities... by LeifCarrotson on Friday December 01, 2017 @03:15PM (#15826946)
> The NTSB does not like it because the brake lights do not turn on. I'm not having that done.

The NTSB must be ignoring the millions of manual-transmission vehicles which can be slowed down through engine braking without their brake lights turning on.

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Re:GM says it will put fleets of self-driving cars in cities... by madengr on Friday December 01, 2017 @05:09PM (#15828112)
Sure, but they can't be brought to a stop with engine breaking.
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Re:GM says it will put fleets of self-driving cars in cities... by LeifCarrotson on Saturday December 02, 2017 @11:12AM (#15832503)
"Braking". It can definitely come to a grinding, flaming halt with engine breaking. (Sorry, that typo is a bit of a pet peeve).

And you can easily get down to 5mph with engine braking, which is more than slow enough to be a problem if you don't have brake lights on.

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Re:GM says it will put fleets of self-driving cars in cities... by jstanley on Friday December 01, 2017 @05:09PM (#15828113)
> tapping the brake turns on the regen in normal D mode, without moving the brake calipers.

Surely I'm not the only one terrified by this? Is there seriously a computer sitting between the pedal and the pads, and the pads don't move unless the computer says so?

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