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Re:Bitcoin ‘Ought to Be Outlawed,’ Nobel Prize Winner Stigli... by wwweston on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @08:26PM (#15812614)
> I count six times you used the word "currency". Yes, some people thought it would be that, but it isn't. It's Bitcoin.

Presumably "some people" includes its creators, given that "coin" is in the name. If that isn't meant to evoke currency, that's quite an oversight.

> It is not limited to 21M "units", and it never was. It's arbitrarily divisible into whatever units you like.

This response doesn't seem to address the parent's related point: that bitcoin as implemented seems to have inflation and deflation built in.

> Again, since it is not a national currency, it doesn't matter. It isn't "deflation" when the price of gold goes up.

It's certainly the giant problem it would be if it were a national currency, but that doesn't mean it doesn't matter. Speculation in anything can have consequences that are undesirable, and for that reason, it's often regulated.

Re:Bitcoin ‘Ought to Be Outlawed,’ Nobel Prize Winner Stigli... by psyc on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @08:30PM (#15812648)
I've been wrong about the use cases of half a dozen things I've created. Satoshi was a programmer, not a pope. I doubt that people using the word "deflation" in this context understand what deflation is. Deflation in currency follows from the economy going bad, not the other way around. This is why we don't call gold and real estate appreciation "deflation".
Re:Bitcoin ‘Ought to Be Outlawed,’ Nobel Prize Winner Stigli... by pas on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @08:36PM (#15812676)
Standard monetary deflation happens exactly when the growth of the economy outpaces the growth of the money supply. Things become cheaper, money will be worth more.
Re:Bitcoin ‘Ought to Be Outlawed,’ Nobel Prize Winner Stigli... by Retric on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @08:50PM (#15812773)
When money was made from gold you got deflation every time the economy expanded. Deflation only recently became a sign of economic contraction.
Re:Bitcoin ‘Ought to Be Outlawed,’ Nobel Prize Winner Stigli... by perseusprime11 on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @10:02PM (#15813121)
Satoshi was a visionary, not just a programmer. It takes a whole lot more to come up with a brilliant idea such as Bitcoin.
Re:Bitcoin ‘Ought to Be Outlawed,’ Nobel Prize Winner Stigli... by hackinthebochs on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @10:14PM (#15813178)
The idea of a distributed electronic currency predated bitcoin. What Satoshi did was solve a couple of remaining problems with the predecessors. Thinking of him as a "visionary" is a mistake.
Re:Bitcoin ‘Ought to Be Outlawed,’ Nobel Prize Winner Stigli... by perseusprime11 on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @11:05PM (#15813383)
Vision without execution is simply hallucination. I will always see Satoshi as a visionary. Too bad we dont know him as a person.
Re:Bitcoin ‘Ought to Be Outlawed,’ Nobel Prize Winner Stigli... by indubitable on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @11:23PM (#15813461)
That is arguably one of Satoshi's biggest victories.

By removing himself from the picture Bitcoin stands alone, controlled by the masses - which is exactly how it ought be. If instead Al Gore created Bitcoin, it will be intrinsically tied with his name as some sort of central person which is contrary to the entire idea. The reason I think this is particularly important is because decentralization is generally going to be seen as intuitively impossible to laymen.

And the possibility of a person is always greater than the reality. Fischer is still the greatest chess champion to ever live in the minds of many, even though he only played in one world championship - and against a champion who was on his way out in any case. Him disappearing after a meteoric rise paradoxically cemented his legacy. Satoshi is a much more meaningful creator than John Doe could ever be.

Re:Bitcoin ‘Ought to Be Outlawed,’ Nobel Prize Winner Stigli... by perseusprime11 on Thursday November 30, 2017 @08:57AM (#15815699)
Well put!