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Re:Hello, world: this is WikiTribune by matt4077 on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @09:39AM (#15807074)
WashPo just broke the allegations against Roy Moore. Before, they did Pulitzer Prize-winning investigations into the Presidents' foundation, and how it channeled donations into his businesses.

The NYT has had dozens of investigative reports in the last year. They were, for example, the first to reveal the meeting of the President's son and advisors with the underbelly of Russian politics. I think they also broke the allegations against Al Franken.

The wire services do valuable work, but they don't investigate. They are a mechanism to lower the costs of journalism by de-duplicating the manpower needed to, for example, attend press conferences. That approach is important, especially in times of financial pressures on journalism. But it doesn't suffice for the fourth estate to fulfil its duty to inform the public.

Re:Hello, world: this is WikiTribune by owenversteeg on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @10:26AM (#15807462)
So I'll preface this with saying I agree with your general point: newspapers are crucial to do important investigative journalism work.

That said, Reuters does do solid investigative journalism work. One example is the Taser scandal recently: https://gijn.org/2017/10/02/how-they-did-it-reuters-massive-... They also have opinion pieces, and long form pieces, although these aren't seen as much as their standard articles.

Re:Hello, world: this is WikiTribune by nandhp on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @10:44AM (#15807627)
AP also does some investigative work. For example, "Americans buying salmon for dinner at Walmart or ALDI may inadvertently have subsidized the North Korean government as it builds its nuclear weapons program, an AP investigation has found" https://www.apnews.com/8b493b7df6e147e98d19f3abb5ca090a
Re:Hello, world: this is WikiTribune by matt4077 on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @01:25PM (#15809368)
Indeed! You’re right, and my third paragraph was wrong
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Re:Hello, world: this is WikiTribune by croon on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @09:58AM (#15807209)
> NYT would only break a story on Franken if they knew it was about to be widely circulated. As a crusading progressive who also has quirks and wit, he was their archetype, they surely agonized over taking him down even with the current #MeToo zeitgeist.

That's quite impressive wild conjecture.

Re:Hello, world: this is WikiTribune by irhd on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @05:18PM (#15811427)
Careful like doing fact checking and confronting Jimmy O'Keefe about his trying to plant fake new stories?
Re:Hello, world: this is WikiTribune by ceejayoz on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @10:34AM (#15807540)
Gutsy to troll in the same thread you posted that people only come to HN to "deliberately quarrel".
Re:Hello, world: this is WikiTribune by frabbit on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @04:31PM (#15811061)
Does anyone besides partisan Democrats really care about Trump possibly having ties to Russians?

The real news has already been broken by WikiLeaks (they are all spying on us) and TheIntercept.

That last site, produces more in-depth investigative reporting than any of the government mouthpieces you have cited.

The only news that is important is news that is hostile to the government on which it is reporting.

The rest is just propaganda.

Re:Hello, world: this is WikiTribune by irhd on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @05:17PM (#15811412)
> Does anyone besides partisan Democrats really care about Trump possibly having ties to Russians?

Literally anyone who cares more about the US, or their own country, more than they do about pushing an ultraconservative agenda. I get not believing the story, or believing it wasn't really that severe. But to just not care?

> The real news has already been broken by WikiLeaks (they are all spying on us) and TheIntercept.

Wikileaks has been exposed as partisan hacks at this point.

how can WaPo and NYT be government mouth pieces when the government is controlled by republicans.