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Re:HP installs system-slowing spyware on its PCs by nileshtrivedi on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @11:43AM (#15798822)
> Let's not pretend that if Linux ever got to the desktop in any meaningful way that these boxes wouldn't ship with everything including kernel modules to do "value added" nonsense.

Windows and Android are able to do these these things because of the lock-in they have on application developers. Apps made for Ubuntu run fine on other Linux distros so Canonical doesn't have the kind of control and lock-in which MS/Google/Apple. This equivalence is therefore dubious.

Re:HP installs system-slowing spyware on its PCs by MichaelGG on Wednesday November 29, 2017 @08:57AM (#15806763)
If Ubuntu started shipping on a lot of devices, the HP and other OEMs would start shipping value-adds from third parties as well. The title of this thread is "HP installs system-slowing spyware on its PCs". This by no means would be Windows-specific if HP shipped any serious quantity of consumer Ubuntu boxes.
Re:HP installs system-slowing spyware on its PCs by ori_b on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @12:33PM (#15799371)
> Apps made for Ubuntu run fine on other Linux distros so Canonical doesn't have the kind of control and lock-in which MS/Google/Apple.

Yes, that is the bug that these value adds would fix.