Extremist group tries to game Digg

Re:Extremist group tries to game Digg by ellyagg on Thursday August 05, 2010 @08:23PM (#1579801)

When people in the US talk about liberal media bias, the frame of reference is the average US voter's leanings. By that standard, dominant news sources (the incumbents, the ones considered most credible) are inarguably left biased. Some ridiculously high percentage of newspaper reporters, like 90%, vote for the Democrat (or other third party left leaning candidate) in every election. While this particular point isn't proof of bias necessarily, if we were to establish that Fox News' reporting staff voted 90% for the Republican, I feel confident it would be shouted from the rooftops in the online circles I run in.

Neither a Democrat nor Republican, but find the ongoing pretense by many otherwise brilliant people that the dominant US media isn't left biased to be an incredibly silly rationalization.

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Re:Extremist group tries to game Digg by spamizbad on Thursday August 05, 2010 @08:44PM (#1579829)

How are dominant news sources liberal when they were notoriously non-critical of the Bush administration's war efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan up until Iraq was in the midst of a civil war (Which the "liberal" media was so kind as to refer to it as "sectarian violence"). The New York Times and NPR even refused to use the word torture to describe water boarding - despite the fact that if you dug into their archives they certainly called it torture when it was done to Americans by the Japanese during WWII.

The only issues where I'd say the news media is genuinely more liberal than the average American is gun control, and I'd say that has more to do with the fact that just about every person in the news media lives and/or works in a major City where gun violence is a problem. Considering gun control hasn't been a major platform issue of the Democratic party since the mid 90's, and is of little interest to the modern progressive/liberal movement (they are far more concerned with social and economic matters), it's hardly fair to classify them as across-the-board liberals.

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Re:Extremist group tries to game Digg by replicatorblog on Friday August 06, 2010 @08:19AM (#1580819)

Unfortunately, our perception of bias is heavily influenced by our personal biases. My recollection of the Bush years was very different, the anti-Bush sentiment are much more prominent in my mind.

It would be an interesting technology project or site. Do a sentiment analysis of major media sources. Search for how often a particular phrase is used. e.g.

Immigration: "Illegal Alien" or "Undocumented Worker"

Abortion: "Pro-Life" or "Anti-Abortion"

Something that could update in real time. It is unavoidable that every news site will have some slant, but an objective number based on rational criteria would be a good tool ala the nutrition facts labels on food packages.

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Re:Extremist group tries to game Digg by __david__ on Thursday August 05, 2010 @10:01PM (#1579975)

I think Stephen Colbert said it best: reality has a liberal bias.

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Re:Extremist group tries to game Digg by loewenskind on Friday August 06, 2010 @04:39AM (#1580560)

Personally I don't find these kind of statements that useful. I think it would be more accurate (and hopefully cause less instinctual defensiveness) to say that the politics in the US is extreme right vs center right, so one should expect most educated people to gravitate to the true middle, which puts them on the US "left".

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Re:Extremist group tries to game Digg by camiller on Friday August 06, 2010 @08:28AM (#1580835)

Well said. Seems like I remember a while back (several election cycles) they did a poll not on how reporters voted but on who they donated money to. Where something like 90% of most media organizations reporters/staff/etc donated to liberal candidates, at Fox News only 75% donated to liberal candidates.

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Re:Extremist group tries to game Digg by MichaelSalib on Friday August 06, 2010 @11:52AM (#1581351)

Do you have a cite for that? I couldn't find anything googling quickly and it sounds awfully suspicious.

In any event, I'm not sure it means much: most news organizations operate out of major cities, and major cities tend to have more liberal populations. If it was economically feasible to start a world-class news organization in a rural part of the Bible-belt, things might be different, but apparently it is not.

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Re:Extremist group tries to game Digg by camiller on Friday August 13, 2010 @10:41AM (#1601016)

Sorry I don't. This was quite some time ago, like maybe Clinton's first term. It was probably something I read in print rather than online.

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