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Re:Frank Abagnale: “Catch Me If You Can” – Talks at Google [... by tyingq on Monday November 27, 2017 @10:00PM (#15793919)
They've stolen the merchant's money if it was an online transaction. Bank only takes the fall for card-present transactions.
Re:Frank Abagnale: “Catch Me If You Can” – Talks at Google [... by gvb on Monday November 27, 2017 @10:11PM (#15793971)
The key is that it's somebody else's problem, not yours.
Re:Frank Abagnale: “Catch Me If You Can” – Talks at Google [... by tyingq on Monday November 27, 2017 @11:03PM (#15794267)
Sure. As a merchant myself, though, I cringe at generalizations that the bank eats the cost.

Personally, I think they should, because they have access to the aggregate data that could prevent more of it.

Because they take no hit for online fraud, however, they do almost nothing to make things better.

Re:Frank Abagnale: “Catch Me If You Can” – Talks at Google [... by icebraining on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @09:18AM (#15797471)
Well, they implemented 3D Secure. I've had to use it quite a few times for online purchases this year (I use an European CC, if that makes a difference).

Although apparently it's a crappy protocol and it's used to shift liability to customers[1], so yeah, they could do better.

[1] http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/Papers/fc10vbvsecurecode.pdf

Re:Frank Abagnale: “Catch Me If You Can” – Talks at Google [... by tyingq on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @10:18AM (#15797984)
Verified by visa (and similar) in the US just never took off. You have to implement it as optional, as most consumers have no idea what it is. So very, very, few people use it if you turn it on.
Re:Frank Abagnale: “Catch Me If You Can” – Talks at Google [... by sitepodmatt on Tuesday November 28, 2017 @04:48AM (#15795781)
I dont think that's true with vBv and Securecode - I believe that indemnifies the merchant of stolen scenario if enabled, at least in Europe.