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Re:How to Stop Advertising Notifications from the Google Pho... by daxfohl on Thursday November 23, 2017 @02:28AM (#15763472)
It's surreal to me that Microsoft faced years of legal repercussions worldwide for including a browser in their OS.
Re:How to Stop Advertising Notifications from the Google Pho... by millstone on Thursday November 23, 2017 @05:37AM (#15764195)
Microsoft caught flack not merely for including IE, but also for requiring OEMs like Dell to set IE as the default browser. Google deserves the same flack for e.g. their requirement that OEMs set Google Search as the default search engine.
Re:How to Stop Advertising Notifications from the Google Pho... by dingo_bat on Thursday November 23, 2017 @06:14AM (#15764337)
AOSP does not include all these apps. Google says if you want to install play store on your device, you must also install all these apps. I think it's exactly the same as Microsoft's behavior with IE.
Re:How to Stop Advertising Notifications from the Google Pho... by LeoPanthera on Thursday November 23, 2017 @03:04AM (#15763599)
Microsoft had a monopoly. Google does not.
Re:How to Stop Advertising Notifications from the Google Pho... by JetSpiegel on Thursday November 23, 2017 @03:20AM (#15763661)
So both Apple and Google control the market, and each uses the "not a monopoly" excuse because of the other company.

There's no practical difference.

Re:How to Stop Advertising Notifications from the Google Pho... by millstone on Thursday November 23, 2017 @05:26AM (#15764157)
The key difference is the OEM license agreements. Google includes dubious requirements in their licensing terms, such as the anti-fragmentation clause. But Apple does not license their software to OEMs, and so cannot run afoul of antitrust IP licensing issues.
Re:How to Stop Advertising Notifications from the Google Pho... by tehwebguy on Thursday November 23, 2017 @03:36AM (#15763747)
Many (or most?) bundled iOS apps can be removed https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT204221
Re:How to Stop Advertising Notifications from the Google Pho... by Nullabillity on Thursday November 23, 2017 @07:07AM (#15764504)
> Removing built-in iOS apps doesn't free up storage space on your device.

So it does the same as disabling them on Android.

Re:How to Stop Advertising Notifications from the Google Pho... by lumisota on Thursday November 23, 2017 @07:25AM (#15764575)
The linked article was for iOS 10. iOS 11 deletes the apps properly: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208094
Re:How to Stop Advertising Notifications from the Google Pho... by Fnoord on Thursday November 23, 2017 @07:17AM (#15764539)
Hate to burst the bubble for you but Android has had this feature for a long, long time. I remember doing this on Android 4.3.
Re:How to Stop Advertising Notifications from the Google Pho... by Fnoord on Thursday November 23, 2017 @07:11AM (#15764515)
They have a duopoly [1]. The linked article explains what a duopoly is, and cites relevant examples. I can tell you of another very relevant US-centric example but its not in business: Republican and democrat.

The impact a duopoly has on a market is vastly different from a monopoly. One problem could be price fixing; but that could happen with more than 2 companies as well. Then we speak of a cartel.

The problem with a monopoly isn't per se that it exists; it becomes anti competitive business practices when the monopoly is abused to exercise control over other markets. I'd like to compare it with a benign tumor which ends up spreading.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duopoly

Re:How to Stop Advertising Notifications from the Google Pho... by floatingatoll on Thursday November 23, 2017 @11:48AM (#15766204)
There is one difference: that’d be a Duopoly, not a Monopoly.
Re:How to Stop Advertising Notifications from the Google Pho... by tonyedgecombe on Thursday November 23, 2017 @04:55AM (#15764040)
There is a huge practical difference and that is where their revenue comes from.
Re:How to Stop Advertising Notifications from the Google Pho... by mtgx on Thursday November 23, 2017 @04:55AM (#15764044)
The EU is investigating Google over this right now. The hammer is coming. Margrethe Vestager (EU Competition Commissioner) isn't playing around.

http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-16-1492_en.htm

Re:How to Stop Advertising Notifications from the Google Pho... by tgtweak on Thursday November 23, 2017 @08:07AM (#15764754)
Google will gladly pay the fine. Imagine the billions generated from search alone on Android.
Re:How to Stop Advertising Notifications from the Google Pho... by rimliu on Thursday November 23, 2017 @05:39AM (#15764201)
You can have a monopoly. What you cannot do is to abuse it. Microsoft was punished for abusing its monopoly position, not for having one.