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Re:50 SWAT officers bombard, destroy bystander’s house with ... by mrunkel on Thursday November 23, 2017 @02:16AM (#15763419)
Just as a point of reference, here in Germany, the police would have just left the suspect be. They already knew his name, and therefore his address, so they would have just filed a report and the prosecutors would have sent him a letter.

As an dual citizen that grew up in America, this is shocking to me, but it seems to work here in Germany. Of course, Germany has national address registration and doesn’t the same level of gun ownership..

Just wanted to point out a different approach.

Re:50 SWAT officers bombard, destroy bystander’s house with ... by PeachPlum on Thursday November 23, 2017 @02:33AM (#15763490)
A guy with a semi-automatic pistol who had fired on officers, "it's ok, we have his name and address"

Glad I don't live in Germany.

Re:50 SWAT officers bombard, destroy bystander’s house with ... by hutzlibu on Thursday November 23, 2017 @07:25AM (#15764573)
.. it is also not true. They would siege the house. And wait for him to give up.
Re:50 SWAT officers bombard, destroy bystander’s house with ... by PeachPlum on Friday November 24, 2017 @02:21AM (#15769902)
Also not true, here's an example from July 2016

Stuttgart siege: Two dead after '100 armed police storm hostage situation' at law firm

Five hour stand-off ends after special forces called in

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/stuttgart-hos...

Re:50 SWAT officers bombard, destroy bystander’s house with ... by hutzlibu on Friday November 24, 2017 @02:31AM (#15769935)
Yeah but this was a hostage situation.

We were talking about a situation, where a lone, armed fugitive has barricaded himself in some place.

And in this situation, there is no need at all for storming.

Turning off the water and wait outside, should be enough.

Re:50 SWAT officers bombard, destroy bystander’s house with ... by mrunkel on Friday November 24, 2017 @12:28AM (#15769596)
I’m talking about the point when he was just a shoplifter.

At that point, if he had valid ID, police wouldn’t even been called.