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Re:Bitcoin Mining Now Consuming More Electricity Than Many C... by erikpukinskis on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @03:54PM (#15760535)
Why are you and the article using TWh/year? Why not just use watts? By my math...

  15 TWh/year
  = 15000 GWh/year
  = 41 GWh/day
  = 1.7 Gwh/hour
  = 1.7 GW
Which is approximately one of these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Grand_coulee_dam_aerial_2...
Re:Bitcoin Mining Now Consuming More Electricity Than Many C... by Banderly on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @07:02PM (#15761759)
Or put another way, approximately enough to power 110 of the most powerful supercomputers in the world, the Sunway TaihuLight, that would give a combined performance of 10 exaFLOPS.

https://www.top500.org/list/2017/11/?page=1

Given bitcoin's current throughput that's about 1 exaFLOP equivalent per bitcoin transaction.

There is no wealth being created here, merely a lot of wealth being rapidly redistributed with a great proportion of that literally turned into heat.

This will not end well.

Re:Bitcoin Mining Now Consuming More Electricity Than Many C... by Itsdijital on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @11:08PM (#15762659)
Although I'm a bit of a biased (dumped btc) hypocrite (made good money from it), bitcoin kinda needs to die. There are vastly superior alternatives that improve on btc in pretty much every way. Bitcoin has got the name though, so people keep buying it.
Re:Bitcoin Mining Now Consuming More Electricity Than Many C... by runeks on Thursday November 23, 2017 @02:52AM (#15763556)
> Given bitcoin's current throughput that's about 1 exaFLOP equivalent per bitcoin transaction.

A block adds an extra confirmation to all transactions in the chain, not just those in the given block. The goal is to make the entire chain as difficult to alter as possible, and each added block increases that difficulty.

Re:Bitcoin Mining Now Consuming More Electricity Than Many C... by kemiller on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @04:16PM (#15760730)
Because energy is routinely priced by the watt-hour.
Re:Bitcoin Mining Now Consuming More Electricity Than Many C... by aqme28 on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @05:51PM (#15761385)
I'm still curious why it's priced by the watt-hour instead of the Joule
Re:Bitcoin Mining Now Consuming More Electricity Than Many C... by 6nf on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @06:01PM (#15761445)
It's easier for a consumer running a 100 watt appliance for 2 hours to calculate the cost.
Re:Bitcoin Mining Now Consuming More Electricity Than Many C... by BurningFrog on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @11:51PM (#15762840)
Without knowing anything specific about this, but knowing a lot about how the world works, I'm fairly confident this convention predates the wide acceptance of the Joule unit.
Re:Bitcoin Mining Now Consuming More Electricity Than Many C... by Someone on Thursday November 23, 2017 @03:06AM (#15763607)
Looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Conference_on_Weights_..., the Watt and the Joule were formalized at the sa,e conference (in 1948).

Of course, that doesn’t rule out that your claim is true, but it does make me wonder whether it does.

I would guess kWh is used because it makes it easier for customers to verify that they aren’t scammed, given that appliances are tagged with Watts. I guess appliances are tagged with Watts and not Joule/s because it is easier to use a single unit than two.

Re:Bitcoin Mining Now Consuming More Electricity Than Many C... by BurningFrog on Thursday November 23, 2017 @01:40PM (#15767001)
Yes, but note my "wide acceptance of" weasel phrase. My impression is that the Joule only started being used widely in the 70s.

I did try to find out when it was defined but failed, so thanks for digging that fact up!

Re:Bitcoin Mining Now Consuming More Electricity Than Many C... by Someone on Thursday November 23, 2017 @06:05PM (#15768410)
There’s also https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Watt%2CJoule&y....

That is for books and must cover mentions of both Watt’s and Joule’s name and of the unit (and, likely, way more of the names. The units typically are abbreviated), so I don’t think that proves or disproves much about wide use of the units.

The difference before 1860 probably is there because James Prescott Joule was less than a year old when James Watt died in 1819 (at the age of 83)

Edit: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=kJ%2CkWh%2Ccal... seems to support the claim that “Joule” came up relatively late.

Re:Bitcoin Mining Now Consuming More Electricity Than Many C... by em3rgent0rdr on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @06:04PM (#15761480)
I think because consumer devices are rated in watts, and consumers can easily guess how many hours they use a particular device.
Re:Bitcoin Mining Now Consuming More Electricity Than Many C... by badosu on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @06:02PM (#15761456)
Probably because power consumption of utilities are measured by watt, so watt/h gives more intuition on how much energy was consumed.
Re:Bitcoin Mining Now Consuming More Electricity Than Many C... by zaarn on Thursday November 23, 2017 @03:20AM (#15763660)
TWh/year makes sense if you want to talk about the entire energy consumption over a year.

1.7GW lacks a time frame, 15TWh/year is more useful in that context, even if you can just short it down to 1.7GW.

Re:Bitcoin Mining Now Consuming More Electricity Than Many C... by mrb on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @04:25PM (#15760805)
I use both. In fact I convert to various other units in my summary (watts, TWh/yr, Mtoe/yr, etc) to make it easy to compare to other energy figures.
Re:Bitcoin Mining Now Consuming More Electricity Than Many C... by icelancer on Thursday November 23, 2017 @04:27AM (#15763923)
watt-hours are the standard measure of electricity use over time; your electrical bill almost certainly uses it (KWh).