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Re:The FCC is about to kill net neutrality. It's time to pro... by tzs on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @12:19AM (#15754446)
> This stinks of a trojan horse for more government control of the internet that would ultimately lead to censorship.

How is prohibiting ISPs from blocking their customs from accessing lawful content, prohibiting ISPs from throttling lawful content, and prohibiting paid prioritization going to lead to censorship?

Those are the main rules from the 2015 Open Internet Order. There are a few other less important rules in the approximately 8 pages of the Order, so if that is where you think the risk of censorship resides, feel free to point out the details.

(If you are confused by me saying 8 pages, because you've seen Pai and others waving around a 300-400 page document and claiming that it was the 2015 Open Internet Order...they were being intentionally misleading. That document was the actual rules, all 8 pages of them, plus a long analysis of the legal background for regulating net neutrality, and responses to the issues raised in the millions of comments received).

Re:The FCC is about to kill net neutrality. It's time to pro... by programmarchy on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @12:28AM (#15754477)
See Title II of The Communication Act of 1934. [1] That's where the 300 pages of regulation come in to play. Title II will completely kill any chance of market competition by creating enormous barriers to market entry, and opens up a whole host of regulatory controls to the federal government.

Now, see the history of television and radio.

[1] http://transition.fcc.gov/Reports/1934new.pdf

Re:The FCC is about to kill net neutrality. It's time to pro... by dragonwriter on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @12:36AM (#15754517)
> See Title II of The Communication Act of 1934. [1] That's where the 300 pages of regulation come in to play.

No, it isn't. Laws and regulations are different things, and while Title II provides lots of pages of regulatory authority, the 2015 Open Internet order, as well as actually providing the Title II classification, adopts the specific regulations under Title II authority that the FCC would apply.

The suggestions that other authorities that were specifically not used would somehow attach themselves to the internet is dishonest FUD (but that's pretty much all the anti-neutrality camp has ever had.)

Re:The FCC is about to kill net neutrality. It's time to pro... by tuxxy on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @01:13AM (#15754706)
This.

I worked at a small ISP in Utah called XMission a while ago. We were pushing net neutrality hard when it came up last time. We didn't seem at all worried about the barrier for entry and growth.

Re:The FCC is about to kill net neutrality. It's time to pro... by gremlinsinc on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @10:52AM (#15757698)
I saw Pete Ashdown at OpenWest a few years back, I totally admire his fight against NSA and FOR Net Neutrality. I enjoyed some of the talks/discussions he had.

I was an x-mission customer till we moved into a condo that is only serviced by Google Fiber.. I'm still happy with Google, but I'd love to support X-mission when possible, they're truly a standout company imho.

Re:The FCC is about to kill net neutrality. It's time to pro... by tzs on Wednesday November 22, 2017 @01:06AM (#15754665)
To elaborate on what dragonwriter already covered, the 2015 Open Internet Order used a procedure called "forbearance" to specifically NOT apply most of Title II to ISPs. It just used enough of the Title II authority necessary to accomplish the small number of rules I mentioned.