Re:How to get enough protein without meat
by hokkos on Monday November 20, 2017 @09:18AM
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I am starting to feel the nutritionfacts.org is bad science too, you can't seriously believe the IGF1 video when it is regularly used as performance enhancing drug for bodybuilders. Also the steroid in meat as been debunked.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1187088/
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/death-as-a-foodborne-illnes... https://www.thatnerdysciencegirl.com/2015/11/13/the-case-aga...
Re:How to get enough protein without meat
by passwordqq on Monday November 20, 2017 @08:25AM
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Stupid but genuine q- can you explain what you mean by- "We are very clean with our food and water, so our plant foods and water are mostly devoid of B12 "
What if we didn't sterilize? Would the bacteria then produce it in our stomach? Once I "get " those bacteria in, do I have to replenish?
Or you mean I have to eat those microbes as they themselves contain b12? In which case dead or alive, what does it matter?
On the topic of muscles and protein:
https://nutritionfacts.org/video/plant-based-bodybuilding
https://nutritionfacts.org/video/protein-intake-and-igf-1-pr...
https://nutritionfacts.org/video/anabolic-steroids-in-meat
On the topic of B12. Many omnis are also B12 deficient, 1 in 5 iirc. In vegans all are eventually B12 deficient under the modern hygiene practices and without supplementation. All B12 originates from microbes that live abundantly in the soil. We are very clean with our food and water, so our plant foods and water are mostly devoid of B12. Pasture fed animals get it "naturally", their factory farmed relatives usually get a B12 supplement. I recommend everyone to get tested for B12 (and D) deficiency as it is very common, and supplement accordingly. Vegans with modern hygiene standards for sure need to supplement (or eat B12-fortified foods).
> B12 as deficiencies in it is a silent killer
Yes. So get your blood tested, and supplement accordingly. This is not something unique to vegans (though a lot more common). For good supplements consult: https://www.toxinless.com
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