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Re:Brave expands Basic Attention Token platform to YouTube by wslh on Friday November 17, 2017 @10:35AM (#15722748)
Is the "ad-free YouTube video experience" something that violates some Google user agreement? Just thinking that Brave is a high profile project and not a tool you download.
Re:Brave expands Basic Attention Token platform to YouTube by NelsonMinar on Friday November 17, 2017 @01:52PM (#15724850)
I'm surprised YouTube doesn't just block the Brave browser entirely. The entire business model of Brave is "siphon off some of the ad revenue from websites".
Re:Brave expands Basic Attention Token platform to YouTube by mtgx on Friday November 17, 2017 @02:12PM (#15725057)
During an anti-trust investigation by a governmental body that has punished large company before over abusing its browser monopoly?

Yeah, I don't think so.

Re:Brave expands Basic Attention Token platform to YouTube by hobofan on Friday November 17, 2017 @02:34PM (#15725268)
Do you mean Microsoft or something else I might be missing? In Microsoft's case, they were punished for their OS monopoly being used to create a browser monopoly by making a default choice for the user, not for abusing its browser monopoly.

Blocking Brave for violating their usage agreements seems very much in another league, even though it might sound like they are building a browser monopoly via their video streaming monopoly. They are not in a position where they take the choice of defaults away from the user, and as long as Firefox, Safari and Edge have some market share, the user still has a choice of compliant browsers. Blocking Brave might be more akin to enforcing their ToS for Youtube via their Play store by blocking 3rd party apps with download function (which is prohibited in Youtube ToS).

Re:Brave expands Basic Attention Token platform to YouTube by Ajedi32 on Friday November 17, 2017 @12:28PM (#15723977)
I don't really see how a browser that blocks ads is any different from an extension that blocks ads.
Re:Brave expands Basic Attention Token platform to YouTube by explodingcamera on Friday November 17, 2017 @01:17PM (#15724481)
Well, it blocks adds and collects money on the behalf of others without having permission to do so...
Re:Brave expands Basic Attention Token platform to YouTube by Ajedi32 on Friday November 17, 2017 @01:43PM (#15724771)
> blocks adds

Yes, but so does uBlock Origin, Adblock Plus, etc.

> collects money on the behalf of others

Why would they need permission from Google to do that? That's completely unrelated to them.

Re:Brave expands Basic Attention Token platform to YouTube by dullgiulio on Friday November 17, 2017 @02:05PM (#15724983)
Because it's illegal. You write a book, I sell some home-printed copies of it and might give me some money if you claim it. It's clearly illegal.
Re:Brave expands Basic Attention Token platform to YouTube by Ajedi32 on Friday November 17, 2017 @02:28PM (#15725206)
> I sell some home-printed copies

That'd be a copyright violation. But Brave isn't making or selling copies of anything, so I don't see what your point is.

Re:Brave expands Basic Attention Token platform to YouTube by btym on Friday November 17, 2017 @02:25PM (#15725176)
That's not what's happening, though. Brave is not running a streaming video service. They aren't hosting or distributing the content. There's nothing illegal about holding money and pledging to give it to someone if they ask for it (as long as you actually do).
Re:Brave expands Basic Attention Token platform to YouTube by rplnt on Friday November 17, 2017 @03:18PM (#15725639)
That doesn't matter. Torrent websites don't host or distribute any content, yet they still get shut down. Not opposing you, just saying your argument isn't enough.
Re:Brave expands Basic Attention Token platform to YouTube by btym on Friday November 17, 2017 @03:28PM (#15725712)
It does matter, because your argument categorically does not apply. Brave is not involved with the distribution of content.
Re:Brave expands Basic Attention Token platform to YouTube by thepangolino on Friday November 17, 2017 @01:38PM (#15724713)
And it's all done client side. What is the issue? Or does it bother Google and other online players that they can not control what is being done?
Re:Brave expands Basic Attention Token platform to YouTube by mtgx on Friday November 17, 2017 @02:13PM (#15725065)
Whose permission does it need exactly?!

1) It blocks ads, just like a browser extension would

2) It has a set-up a payment content creators can take advantage of.

I fail to see what is wrong with either.

Re:Brave expands Basic Attention Token platform to YouTube by miyayes on Friday November 17, 2017 @05:12PM (#15726426)
That doesn't make any sense. Right now, I'm going to start putting money into this jar to my left. I'm going to put a sticker on it that says your name. You can come retrieve this jar if you like. Therefore, I have done something wrong?