Here one item of the Brave-FAQ:

Why build a browser and not extensions for top browsers?

Extensions face API and performance limits. Our own browser lets us put our best foot forward on speed and deep integration of private ad-tech. We may do extensions if our users find themselves browsing in other browsers often.

=> give them feedback if you’re interested

> Why build a browser and not extensions for top browsers?

I happen to be working on this right now http://browsercoin.com, if anybody is interested in beta testing it out, my email is in my profile.

> Extensions face API and performance limits. Our own browser lets us put our best foot forward on speed and deep integration of private ad-tech. We may do extensions if our users find themselves browsing in other browsers often.

Basically, their FAQ answer is debatable because the Chrome API is more than enough to support a Patreonesque model, if you have uBlock and other privacy focused extension, you don't even need to download a heavy browser client.

Hence the name BrowserCoin, I'd be open to feedbacks on what you would like to see happen with it.

I clicked; might want to update your site from the nginx welcome page.

> "I happen to be working on this right now"

Sounds like pwaai is literally working on browsercoin right now! :)

uh, "Welcome to nginx!" ...

They've confirmed that they will be building extensions for other browsers and expanding BAT beyond the Brave browser. The Brave browser is, of course, the first proving ground and lets them implement the full platform without API limitations, but they've confirmed that insofar as the extension APIs are supportive, they will make extensions.

(And you can still make extensions that offer partial functionality, such as the a BAT wallet for donations, but without the whole BAT Ads platform built in. You would get full functionality in apps that integrate BAT with the SDKs or if you use Brave itself.)

They're also offering SDKs for other apps: e.g., mobile apps, smart TV apps, etc.

See this post: https://basicattentiontoken.org/driving-user-adoption-and-ex...

Maybe consider Flattr? From what I can tell it does basically the same thing: https://flattr.com/contributors

It does the same with much more overhead for the user as far as I can tell. The point of Brave is to have everything working behind the scene for the user, so no friction.

What's the "much more overhead"? As far as I know, in the current state of Brave you have to buy tokens, just like you put money in flattr. In the future model, Brave will show you ads vs flattr taking money directly - is that much more overhead?

(The implementations might differ in other important things, e.g. privacy or fee structure, but the basic user attention model seems similar enough to me)

Flattr _used_ to require the user to click a button to indicate they like a particular page and want to support its creator. I assume GP is simply unaware that that's not how Flattr works anymore.

Flattr 2.0 works more like Brave does; the user pays a monthly subscription, and Flattr just automatically distributes those funds to creators based on what sites the user views most often that month.

I stand corrected, I didn't know about this new version.

I don't think Flattr will succeed over cryptocurrencies such as BAT/STEEM.

And in another bonus doesn't appear to require tokens.

One attention-crypto as a browser extension is WildSpark by Synereo: https://wildspark.me

I have no affiliation, I have zero of whatever their coin is, but I randomly signed up for their mailing list a while back out curiosity.

You should really try the browser itself, partly because it will pay you to watch some ads, and partly because it will respect your privacy.

But I trust Mozilla more with my privacy and I don't want to watch ads at all!

This is why Brave has a limited future as it is.

You can't pay me cents to pick a worse browser. It's like the days when there were those pay to surf companies. The promise of money is nice, but most end users don't benefit that much from it. There's a lot more incentive for the company for their product to work than there is for the users to adopt it.

I'm not deeply familiar with Brave's roadmap but my understanding is that the BAT tokens you'd receive from watching ads could also be used to tip content providers similar to what can be done in Steemit.

Brave is open source, and built by a team of privacy focused, performance oriented pioneers of the web, founded by the inventor of Javascript and co-founder of Mozilla.

https://www.brave.com/about/

> founded by the inventor of Javascript

So he is obviously capable of great evil

Great success! (must read in Borat's voice).

This, so much this. Maybe I could reconsider if they paid me more than a few dollars per good (according to me) advertisement, but I doubt that this will be the case. Until then, I will stick to ad-blocking.

How about this, a system will show you ads and you can chose to skip or stop if you don't like them. In any case for however many seconds you endured, you get paid.

Sounds interesting, but my threshold is probably too high, and I would skip most of them. When was the last time you enjoyed watching an ad? I can't remember, but it's rarely the case. If you combine this with the chance that you are the target of the ads, it's pretty low.

I've invested in BAT during their ICO and today I feel like I'm hustling my investment a little bit. :-)

I mostly use Brave on my phone because it makes the browsing experience faster and removes most ads by default. I won't change to another browser on the iPhone anytime soon. Having said this, I haven't used the payments feature outside of web3 (Ethereum DApps).

I don't watch ads with any interest or attention in general, but I often have Youtube playing some live concert on the background while I work and ads cut midway forcing me to change tabs so I can skip them. The idea that instead of breaking my concentration to stop an add playing I can simply let them and that _that_ could be a little money generating activity seems appealing.

(edit a word)

Safari with content blockers does this as well.. perhaps with better performance?

I don't want to watch any ads. Anywhere, ever.

How is that a choice if it shows ads by default? By the time you skip the ad, it already broke the flow of the content.

I was comparing different browsers.

I don't think you have a good understanding of BAT. They are aiming for high quality ads that aren't spammy. The ads will be displayed in something like a private ad tab, and won't be put in in-page slots. So, if you don't want to look at the private ad tab, then it's logically equivalent to not seeing ads. If you want to and be compensated for it, then the option is there. What's wrong with having more options?

Secondly, Brendan Eich already confirmed that there is a 70% revenue share for users. Let's pretend the advertiser is paying 10 cents per view, then you would get 7 cents per ad watched. 70% is a lot.

Thirdly, even if it's just a few cents, it's better than nothing. Things build up over time. Before you know it, you'll have a few $. That's awesome. You can get a month of subscription on a ton of websites for like $3. That's also 3 songs on iTunes store, or a paid app on the app store.

They've confirmed that they will be building extensions for other browsers and expanding BAT beyond the Brave browser. The Brave browser is, of course, the first proving ground and lets them implement the full platform without API limitations, but they've confirmed that insofar as the extension APIs are supportive, they will make extensions.

(And you can still make extensions that offer partial functionality, such as the a BAT wallet for donations, but without the whole BAT Ads platform built in. You would get full functionality in apps that integrate BAT with the SDKs or if you use Brave itself. Chromne API gives access to browser history, and making a BAT wallet is pretty easy.)

They're also offering SDKs for other apps: e.g., mobile apps, smart TV apps, etc.

See this post: https://basicattentiontoken.org/driving-user-adoption-and-ex...