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Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by etiam on Friday November 17, 2017 @05:34AM (#15720816)
Associate disgust with North Koreans. Check.

Motivate military invasion as humanitarian intervention. Check.

Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by dingaling on Friday November 17, 2017 @06:10AM (#15720994)
I always appreciate a cynical take on the news, but to be fair there has been plenty of justification for humanitarian intervention in NK for the past 60 years. We don't really need more 'reasons'.

This is more like titillation wrapped-up in a respectable jacket of 'serious current affairs' to get some clicks.

Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by legulere on Friday November 17, 2017 @06:44AM (#15721196)
60 years? North Korea used to be more industrialized and further along than the south at the beginning.
Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by cxspoon on Friday November 17, 2017 @07:08AM (#15721339)
Why does this get downvoted? It is factually 100% correct. People used to flee from South to North in the beginning.
Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by jwilk on Friday November 17, 2017 @07:30AM (#15721443)
From the HN guidelines:

Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.

Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by pizza234 on Friday November 17, 2017 @07:15AM (#15721369)
There's no such a thing as a humanitarian intervention. As sibling posts say, there's plenty of market for it, if a country really wants to do it.

Even ignoring this aspect, there are two reasons for not waging a war to NK:

  1. NK is under China's protection, primarily for acting as buffer country (this is a valid political reason)
  2. NK does have offensive power; even without nuclear warheads, due to geographical positioning, it can do a huge amount of damange to SK.
Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by cxspoon on Friday November 17, 2017 @07:11AM (#15721352)
...and while you are at it, there are plenty of other countries that could use some humanitarian intervention. Some of them even US allies (keywords: Saudi Arabia, Yemen)

But to be fair, I have no answer to the question if ignoring abuses as "internal affairs" is the better option. A very complex problem indeed.

Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by timthelion on Friday November 17, 2017 @08:57AM (#15721951)
There are plenty of US counties that could use some humanitarian intervention.
Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by HarryHirsch on Friday November 17, 2017 @09:07AM (#15722021)
As usual, the Guardian has the news: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/05/hookworm-low...

If you have waterborne disease like that it's always a sign of inadequate infrastructure.

Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by etiam on Friday November 17, 2017 @06:53AM (#15721241)
What's reason got to do with it? This kind of piece is literally about the visceral level.

> to be fair there has been plenty of justification for humanitarian intervention in NK for the past 60 years

Broadly agree to that. Amazing that we're finally opening our eyes to that at this particular point in history, isn't it.

Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by ainiriand on Friday November 17, 2017 @06:20AM (#15721048)
Go to Africa then, you have a lot of market there.
Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by CamperBob2 on Friday November 17, 2017 @01:27PM (#15724601)
There's the question of what humanitarian aid Western nations might be morally obligated to offer to its former colonies. That's one question, with many different opinions.

Then there's the question of how history will view the rest of us for looking the other way while the Kims turned an entire country into a concentration camp.

That's another question entirely. Imagine if we'd left Auschwitz up and running at the end of WWII.

Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by rurban on Friday November 17, 2017 @02:11PM (#15725049)
Happened to Buchenwald. Was a nice KZ for the Russians.
Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by sorokod on Friday November 17, 2017 @06:59AM (#15721278)
"North Korea is a very poor country and like any other poor country it has serious health problems"

Sounds like a reasonable statement. How do you get from this to "motivate military invasion"?

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Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by sctb on Friday November 17, 2017 @08:54AM (#15721935)
We've banned this account like we said we would.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by Supernaut on Friday November 17, 2017 @07:39AM (#15721493)
Can you provide some examples of countries that are poor because of the generally low IQ of their populations?
Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by HarryHirsch on Friday November 17, 2017 @09:19AM (#15722132)
Large tracts of Africa have 10 points shaved off their average IQ because of parasite infestation, if you get bilharziosis in early childhood it really makes you more stupid. Malaria doesn't help either, also because it causes you to miss school.

Fun fact: South Korea had a very serious schistosome problem, too. Merck discovered Praziquantel in the early 1970s, it's the only medication that really works but Merck could not provide doses at a price the country could afford. So South Korean chemists got to work and developed their own process, and it gave the Korean chemical industry a big boost. Shinpoong still produce 50 % of the world's supply of praziquantel. The WHO report is here, btw: http://apps.who.int/medicinedocs/en/d/Jwhozip48e/1.html

Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by egeozcan on Friday November 17, 2017 @06:02AM (#15720958)
Well, then it de-escalated pretty quickly from nuclear weapons to parasites. I find it unlikely, even as a side-story to the main propaganda.
Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by nl on Friday November 17, 2017 @07:53AM (#15721569)
Oh come on, not everything is a conspiracy.

Parasites are often closely associated with unusual diets. Here's the CDC page on screening refugees for parasites[1].

There's a vast amount of literature about this[2]

[1] https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/guidelines/domest...

[2] https://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?q=parasites+and+diet+r...

Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by Feniks on Friday November 17, 2017 @08:32AM (#15721800)
Nobody wants military intervention.

Not the EU/UK Not Japan Not China Not South Korea Not Russia

The US possibly but who listens to them anymore?

Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by mtgx on Friday November 17, 2017 @08:03AM (#15721623)
Start seeding the tech media now with stories about North Korean malware about which they knew since 2013. Check.
Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by jchw on Friday November 17, 2017 @06:31AM (#15721110)
Both of those things are already things that we have and do not need any more of to justify a full-scale nuclear war. I'm pretty sure the thing keeping it from becoming a real war zone is mutually assured destruction. Even mutually assured destruction aside, I think most people realize whatever kind of conflict occurs it won't be pretty for the parties involved.

Of course, letting things go for long enough to actually allow North Korea to produce working nuclear weapons is probably not very smart either, but I guess hindsight is 20:20.

Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by cxspoon on Friday November 17, 2017 @05:38AM (#15720840)
Yes, this will be Iraq war, Part II
Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by myst on Friday November 17, 2017 @06:06AM (#15720975)
Iraq. Part IV.
Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by tryingagainbro on Friday November 17, 2017 @07:20AM (#15721385)
How can one make the land of milk and honey look bad?

Military invasion, while unlikely (cost, mainly destruction,) would probably be better for 99.99% of North Koreans. Oh, if they are ever attacked it will be because they have threatened to nuke quite a few countries.

Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by jwilk on Friday November 17, 2017 @07:40AM (#15721503)
0.01% of NK population is ~2500. There's going to be a lot more casualties of war than that.
Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by tryingagainbro on Friday November 17, 2017 @11:45AM (#15723553)
>>0.01% of NK population is ~2500. There's going to be a lot more casualties of war than that.

wrong way to calculate. Sometimes you need to die so others, including your family, have a chance.

Of course, you can say who are we to decide that "John" in North Korea should die for freedom...

Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by Chris2048 on Friday November 17, 2017 @05:52AM (#15720911)
Because obv the BBC are just a mouthpiece for the Trump administration...
Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by saladeen on Friday November 17, 2017 @07:29AM (#15721435)
Regardless of how bad Trump is considered to be, and how true that will turn out to be, in my opinion this is the first time that someone is actually doing something that has a chance at ending this horrible situation that we've been just sweeping under the rug for the past few decades. He put a squeeze on their only ally, China, put in meaningful sanctions that are hitting where it hurts, the elite, and is calling out their leader on his bluffing tactics that worked well (for the leader and the elite) so far.

Hundreds of thousands of people, slowly languishing in famine and unspeakable suffering, all ignored because it's an 'inconvenient problem'.

Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by mercurysmessage on Friday November 17, 2017 @08:45AM (#15721875)
It's easy for Trump to talk, as he always does, when he doesn't face the threats that Asia does. There has always been a hard stance on NK.
Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by saladeen on Friday November 17, 2017 @04:56PM (#15726325)
The hard stance you speak of was always simple containment and ignoring, and then when their leader would start shaking sabres and making threats, he would get appeased with free food.

That was exactly my point. The problem was ignored, and at times when it couldn't be ignored, NK would bluff, and the rest of the world would appease them.

Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by Chris2048 on Friday November 17, 2017 @09:17AM (#15722113)
> There has always been a hard stance on NK

Can you justify that opinion? Why did it take the US to sanction a Chinese bank?

Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by dazc on Friday November 17, 2017 @07:54AM (#15721575)
The BBC are obsessed with Trump in a way that is 180 degrees opposite of what you are suggesting.
Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by Chris2048 on Friday November 17, 2017 @09:16AM (#15722105)
Not really, I omitted an explicit </s> because I though the ellipsis made it obvious...

But then, I'm English so maybe I'm assume more familiarity with the BBC than the average HNer.

Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by dazc on Friday November 17, 2017 @11:07AM (#15723135)
My error
Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by acqq on Friday November 17, 2017 @06:25AM (#15721075)
Because obviously it wasn't so to prepare for the war in Iraq? I suggest reading the articles from 2003, I think a lot of them are still online.
Re:North Korean defector found to have 'enormous parasites' by Chris2048 on Friday November 17, 2017 @06:43AM (#15721193)
Is the UK signing up for a war with NK?