More to the point, in my experience training more than a few college grad devs, what I look for in hiring isn't any particular language or technology, I look for someone who knows how to think like a programmer. That's something incredibly hard to teach, but if you can find someone who already has the thought processes in place for how to turn intent into code, that's 90% of your training done right there, and the remainder can happen largely with googling, stack overflow, and good code review from more experienced devs.

I'm not knocking coding bootcamps or colleges, I've had hires from both. I'm moreso saying that the idea that a programmers skills are isolated to the code they currently can write is a little shortsighted.

> Sure there are new tools and methods, but I say the fundamentals are the same.

Absolutely. Folks need to get their heads around software engineering as a practiced discipline. Your education is about the fundamentals of how you think and approach, even if the tools themselves change over time.

This is a sensible perspective, but the job market is actually the opposite of sensible (in a way).

Paradoxically, the (again, sensible) attitude that fundamentals are the same with a different coating, will distantiate one from chasing the latest fads... which is actually what the [majority of the] market looks for.

The job market for database and networking skills is pretty different than the market for web apps.

There are places where you get a job because you want to rewrite everything, and places where you get a job because you didn't suggest to rewrite anything.

I agree on the market being crazy.

Does any employer in the world interview people with real world skills?