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Re:Numpy: Plan for dropping Python 2.7 support by kbd on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @08:34PM (#15709637)
Perl is a weird language language for you to cite when we're talking about languages that do major transitions well. Perl 6 was created because Perl 5 was an evolutionary dead end, took 15 years, has no adoption, and Perl 5 usage shrunk tremendously in the meantime. Not saying this glibly as I love Perl and I hope Perl 6 sees some adoption, but come on now. Also remember that Perl 5 itself was nearly a complete rewrite from 4.
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Re:Numpy: Plan for dropping Python 2.7 support by crusso on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @09:36PM (#15709883)
Exactly my thought regarding the need to evolve as a language. Perl is mostly dead because it didn't keep up with the times and I say that as a person who spent a tremendous amount of time learning and using Perl. The Schwartzarian transform was a beautiful thing to behold.
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Re:Numpy: Plan for dropping Python 2.7 support by reacweb on Thursday November 16, 2017 @08:10AM (#15712346)
Perl is born to solve portability and limitation problems of shells (csh, sh, ksh*), awk and sed. People who do not live on the command line can not appreciate the power of perl.
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Re:Numpy: Plan for dropping Python 2.7 support by majewsky on Thursday November 16, 2017 @08:02AM (#15712305)
> The Schwartzarian transform was a beautiful thing to behold.

Meh, more like a clutch for systems where you couldn't install List::UtilsBy. (One of my favorite Perl modules of all time.)

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Re:Numpy: Plan for dropping Python 2.7 support by zimpenfish on Thursday November 16, 2017 @08:12AM (#15712351)
There's 17 years between the introduction of the Schwartzian Transform (1994) and List::UtilsBy (2011 according to CPAN).
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Re:Numpy: Plan for dropping Python 2.7 support by majewsky on Thursday November 16, 2017 @08:50AM (#15712563)
Huh. I guess it's one of those cases where once you have a thing, you wonder how you could have gone 20 years without it. :) Although, to be fair, I only started working with Perl (beyond one-liners on the shell) in 2012.
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Re:Numpy: Plan for dropping Python 2.7 support by bandrami on Thursday November 16, 2017 @01:44AM (#15710675)
There's also no push, whatsoever, to "get with the parrot program". Larry Wall is not holding a gun to Perl 5's head.
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Re:Numpy: Plan for dropping Python 2.7 support by kbd on Thursday November 16, 2017 @02:34PM (#15715777)
Unlike Python 3's relation to Python 2, Perl 6 is genuinely a new language. It would make little sense for the community to discontinue Perl 5 and push for Perl 6.

In retrospect it probably would have been better for the community if they'd given Perl 6 a new name.

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