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Re:Bitcoin surges in Zimbabwe after military seize power by Pfhreak on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @03:25PM (#15707411)
> For Bitcoin to succeed, it needs to conquer the US market adoption

Genuinely: Why is that axiomatic?

Why is there no path that is, reductively, in parts of the world where electronic payments are already normal, bitcoin becomes the instrument?

Re:Bitcoin surges in Zimbabwe after military seize power by ActsJuvenile on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @03:30PM (#15707454)
Because Zimbabwean consumer doesn't influence USA; but USA consumer influences rest of the world.

I can't think of any technology besides micro-finance that has trickled-up to USA.

Re:Bitcoin surges in Zimbabwe after military seize power by yen223 on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @03:44PM (#15707554)
Counterpoint: WhatsApp and WeChat are huge despite not having much of an American presence.
Re:Bitcoin surges in Zimbabwe after military seize power by FRex on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @04:02PM (#15707740)
That's not a counterpoint but a confirmation of the first part of the original argument. You just listed two examples of such apps that fail to influence America despite being huge in other countries.

To make a counterpoint you need to find something popular in USA with no uptake outside of it or something that influenced USA but came from outside.

Re:Bitcoin surges in Zimbabwe after military seize power by exelius on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @04:31PM (#15708019)
Honestly, the iPhone is a perfect "counterpoint" if you're looking for one. Dominant in the US, but relatively marginal worldwide.
Re:Bitcoin surges in Zimbabwe after military seize power by FRex on Thursday November 16, 2017 @04:41AM (#15711379)
It's fairly less popular (it might have to do with high price) but nowhere near 'marginal'[0]: http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/58d04a02112f701f008...

It's also supposedly (I can't remember where I heard that, some tech channel on YT) the only non-Chinese brand that's popular at all in China.

[0] Admittedly I have no idea for context of the picture and had to get it from google pictures since I couldn't visit business insider, I keep getting redirected to a Polish version of business insider that has NO TEXT AT ALL (?!).

Also, what do people find so wrong with me pointing out that "here's 2 apps popular out of US but not in it" strengthens the "USA influences the world but not vice versa"?

Re:Bitcoin surges in Zimbabwe after military seize power by dingo_bat on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @08:10PM (#15709529)
Look at the world-wide smartphone revenue share and tell me if you think iPhone is "marginal".
Re:Bitcoin surges in Zimbabwe after military seize power by bildung on Thursday November 16, 2017 @05:40AM (#15711621)
Re:Bitcoin surges in Zimbabwe after military seize power by dingo_bat on Thursday November 16, 2017 @08:54AM (#15712587)
Key word: revenue
Re:Bitcoin surges in Zimbabwe after military seize power by bildung on Friday November 17, 2017 @03:48AM (#15720280)
I can't find revenue numbers anywhere. Do you have a source?
Re:Bitcoin surges in Zimbabwe after military seize power by alethiophile on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @05:28PM (#15708504)
If Bitcoin gains significant adoption overseas, that pushes up Bitcoin's value everywhere, USA included; geographical differences in price will be arbitraged away. The increase in price might or might not lead to greater US adoption, but it'll still benefit US holders.
Re:Bitcoin surges in Zimbabwe after military seize power by erikpukinskis on Thursday November 16, 2017 @04:11PM (#15716664)
You’re just pushing your axiom up a level. You’re still presuming US adoption is the measure of success. WeChat isn’t used in the US, but it’s still successful.
Re:Bitcoin surges in Zimbabwe after military seize power by siavosh on Wednesday November 15, 2017 @03:42PM (#15707548)
Possibly using your phone for payment which has been long popular in Asia as well as Africa.