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Re:Missouri Attorney General launches investigation of Google by CottageCarry on Monday November 13, 2017 @03:31PM (#15689933)
I'd love an actually decent competitor to Youtube.
Re:Missouri Attorney General launches investigation of Google by savanaly on Monday November 13, 2017 @06:28PM (#15691240)
I mean, I want the improvement in quality that usually comes with competition, but I don't actually want there to be competition. Does anyone really relish the idea of having to search multiple sites for a given video because you don't know or can't remember which one it's on, and having to have an account and different set of uploader subscriptions for Youtube A, B and C? And remember where the subscribe button is on A vs. B and does C support changing video speed or not? etc. Just one platform is a massive, MASSIVE perk of the current system.
Re:Missouri Attorney General launches investigation of Google by zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @12:47AM (#15692962)
Yeah, just like you don't really want to have more than one company hosting text on the web. Imagine the mess it would be if there were more than one company hosting text on the web! It's a massive perk of the current system that all text that is published on the web is hosted at the web hosting company!

But, quite seriously, I think we have a massive problem on our hands if even people who frequent hacker news just aren't aware of the concepts of standards and interoperability anymore, that a monopoly seems to be perceived as the only way to achieve integration at the user experience level.

Want to have more than one TV channel with a common user interface? Obviously, all TV channels need to be owned by one company!

Want to have more than one appliance with a common electricity supply infrastructure? Obviously, all appliances need to be provided by the one electricity supplier!

Want to have more than one newspaper in the same language and alphabet? Obviously, all newspapers and their common language and alphabet need to be owned by one company!

Want people all around the planet to be able to talk to each other remotely? Obviously, all telephones and telephone networks need to be owned and operated by one company!

I'd really like to understand how this thinking managed to take hold, given that it seems to be so obviously fallacious to me.

Re:Missouri Attorney General launches investigation of Google by ajdlinux on Monday November 13, 2017 @11:32PM (#15692682)
Indeed.

Really I want a decentralised system where I have my cake and eat it too, with a single mechanism for accessing my content while also not giving a single company control over and profit from the entire industry.

Oh, and this hypothetical decentralised system has to, well, not completely suck. Which means it's never going to happen.

Re:Missouri Attorney General launches investigation of Google by lkrubner on Monday November 13, 2017 @11:40PM (#15692713)
Maybe there could be a search engine that finds videos on all video sites, and shows them according to some well-tested algorithm, without any bias? Oh, but the owners of such a search engine would need to be entirely neutral and unbiased. For instance, they should not also be owners of a video site that they would like to promote.

It's been a long time since the USA Justice Department went after a company for having a vertical monopoly, but this is a reminder of why vertical monopolies can inhibit innovation, just as much as horizontal ones.

Re:Missouri Attorney General launches investigation of Google by ISL on Monday November 13, 2017 @09:05PM (#15692037)
Remember RSS feeds? :).
Re:Missouri Attorney General launches investigation of Google by mark_l_watson on Monday November 13, 2017 @10:22PM (#15692336)
Good point. I split the eBooks I buy between Kindle, Google Books, and Apple iBooks. I do this to not put all my digital purchases in one basket, support competition, and sometimes take advantage of sales. It is a nuisance.

But, even though you make a good point, I disagree in the sense that I would like to see other services like Vimeo gain market share to balance things out. Trouble is, it is difficult for other services to compete with ‘free.’

Re:Missouri Attorney General launches investigation of Google by ikiris on Monday November 13, 2017 @07:30PM (#15691568)
It's as if twitch, amazon, and 5 million porn sites didn't exist.
Re:Missouri Attorney General launches investigation of Google by wavefunction on Monday November 13, 2017 @10:42PM (#15692443)
Those aren't really Youtube though. I can go on youtube to listen to music or watch a video on rebuilding a carburetor self-published by some random guy, or catch a movie trailer, or even publish my own videos.
Re:Missouri Attorney General launches investigation of Google by indigo0086 on Monday November 13, 2017 @11:15PM (#15692606)
You can get money directly from the viewers with twitch, therefore making it far superior than YouTube. The idea that YouTube is monopoly because people are to afraid of moving to other options is silly
Re:Missouri Attorney General launches investigation of Google by Buge on Tuesday November 14, 2017 @04:41AM (#15693803)
Re:Missouri Attorney General launches investigation of Google by ajdlinux on Monday November 13, 2017 @11:33PM (#15692690)
Twitch is a video gaming streaming service.

YouTube is a general video service.

Twitch isn't superior.

Re:Missouri Attorney General launches investigation of Google by rumblestrut on Monday November 13, 2017 @03:55PM (#15690150)
Vimeo?
Re:Missouri Attorney General launches investigation of Google by Dirlewanger on Monday November 13, 2017 @05:53PM (#15691036)
Vimeo isn't, and doesn't want to be, a YouTube competitor.
Re:Missouri Attorney General launches investigation of Google by kevinnk on Monday November 13, 2017 @05:10PM (#15690752)
Facebook and vid.me as well. And twitch for streaming.
Re:Missouri Attorney General launches investigation of Google by warent on Monday November 13, 2017 @07:56PM (#15691692)
Nobody is going to mention DailyMotion?