Good luck with that one.

My niece's dad bought her a phone. She's 3. What the fuck. My sister is not happy with it, but I don't think she feels like she has much power over the situation.

"Uh-oh honey, looks like little Alice dropped her phone in the toilet again. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"

so sneaky. that's just the kind of sneaky thing a benevolently manipulative, savvy mother might do.

You're not going to be able to convince people who benefited greatly from unfettered internet access in their youth to do that.

I too benefited from relatively unfettered access to the internet as child, but as a 14-year old, not a 4-year old.

This.