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Re:How we do Vue at GitLab: one year later by lucideer on Friday November 10, 2017 @02:51PM (#15672407)
While I personally avoided this pitfall and learnt React alone before Redux, I have not meet anyone else who did the same. Literally everyone I've talked to about learning React did so (or tried, and failed to do so) with both, up front.
Re:How we do Vue at GitLab: one year later by a13n on Friday November 10, 2017 @02:55PM (#15672442)
Wow, I wonder where people are getting the idea that they need to learn Redux. If you start a new job at a company that uses React, then you probably need to learn React + Redux simultaneously. But if you're just picking up React, Redux isn't useful whatsoever.

This image, from React conf years ago, communicates this sentiment perfectly: https://i.stack.imgur.com/tnk9a.png

Re:How we do Vue at GitLab: one year later by sotojuan on Friday November 10, 2017 @04:07PM (#15673043)
> Wow, I wonder where people are getting the idea that they need to learn Redux

Because everyone with a React job or substantial React project uses Redux (or a similar library). It is common for junior devs to rush through learning libraries in hopes of being employable or a "real developer" as soon as possible.

Re:How we do Vue at GitLab: one year later by k__ on Friday November 10, 2017 @02:58PM (#15672466)
I started with Redux too, because the lead dev on a project said it's a must.

Now I did two projects without and everything is nice and simple.

Re:How we do Vue at GitLab: one year later by a13n on Friday November 10, 2017 @03:06PM (#15672529)
It's definitely a must after a certain codebase size. 20k LoC maybe? But for personal projects, no way.