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Re:America’s ‘Retail Apocalypse’ Is Really Just Beginning by samsolomon on Wednesday November 08, 2017 @12:36PM (#15654698)
I live near Lenox Mall and Phipps Plaza in Atlanta, and they could not be any busier. It's packed at 2pm on a Tuesday when I'm going to an eye doctor appointment. On the weekends there are often traffic issues in from people entering and leaving.

I feel like it's not that malls or retailers are dying, but instead all the revenue is going to a few places with wealthy, urban locations. Perhaps this has to do with the influx of people moving from the suburbs into cities?

Re:America’s ‘Retail Apocalypse’ Is Really Just Beginning by StevePerkins on Wednesday November 08, 2017 @01:20PM (#15655250)
#1: Buckhead is an affluent residential neighborhood, that turned into a startup hub and investment banker district in a couple of decades... but hasn't changed the "residential neighborhood" infrastructure. There are 24/7 traffic issues even when Lenox is closed.

#2: The Atlanta metro had about two-dozen thriving malls a couple of decades ago. Today there's, what? Lenox/Phipps, Perimeter, maybe Cumberland (?). Mall of Georgia way out in the boondocks, having killed all the others along the I-85 corridor? Even Lenox isn't as hopping today as it was in the "old Buckhead" (i.e. pre-Ray Lewis) days. The trend is pretty stark.

Re:America’s ‘Retail Apocalypse’ Is Really Just Beginning by smileysteve on Wednesday November 08, 2017 @02:20PM (#15655950)
North Dekalb mall is a great example of an almost dead mall. It has a movie theater that I visited for a Tmobile Tuesday.
Re:America’s ‘Retail Apocalypse’ Is Really Just Beginning by southphillyman on Wednesday November 08, 2017 @02:23PM (#15655985)
Just curious ...what are the "pre Ray Lewis" days? He never played in Atlanta and isn't from there....
Re:America’s ‘Retail Apocalypse’ Is Really Just Beginning by StevePerkins on Wednesday November 08, 2017 @03:57PM (#15656948)
Throughout the 1990's, Buckhead had a TREMENDOUS club/nightlife scene.

In 2000, Ray Lewis was in town for an away game or whatever reason. He and his entourage got into a nightclub altercation that lead to a stabbing death... you know, just read his Wikipedia entry if you're not already aware of those details.

Anyway, it was an EXTREMELY high-profile story in the local press, and shortly thereafter the bar and nightclub scene was drastically curtailed.

Now, it's definitely arguable whether this should be attributed to Ray Lewis. The truth is more complex... political pressure from wealthy local residents had been building for years, and the Lewis incident was really just a "symbolic" tipping point. Regardless, a lot us lifelong Atlanta residents tend to remember that incident as one of those miniature 9/11-ish moments where a culture shifts abruptly.

Re:America’s ‘Retail Apocalypse’ Is Really Just Beginning by southphillyman on Wednesday November 08, 2017 @04:04PM (#15657009)
Oh wow thanks, this whole time I thought that incident occurred in South Beach. Makes sense. I'm sad I'll never get to experience the "old Atlanta". I usually hear people describe it as pre and post Freaknik though.
Re:America’s ‘Retail Apocalypse’ Is Really Just Beginning by coreymayo on Wednesday November 08, 2017 @04:17PM (#15657143)
Re:America’s ‘Retail Apocalypse’ Is Really Just Beginning by mattnewton on Wednesday November 08, 2017 @12:57PM (#15654941)
I think that’s part of it, there is also the issue the article goes into about leveraged buyouts leaving several retail stores with interest payments that are just too high on otherwise healthy buisinesses. It isn’t enough for them to be packed, they have to show growth to beat the interest.
Re:America’s ‘Retail Apocalypse’ Is Really Just Beginning by bluedino on Wednesday November 08, 2017 @01:30PM (#15655373)
Right - Atlanta has many dead/dying malls. Shannon Mall, Southlake, Greenbriar and Gwinnett Place
Re:America’s ‘Retail Apocalypse’ Is Really Just Beginning by jamesmp98 on Wednesday November 08, 2017 @01:02PM (#15655018)
I miss ATL malls