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Re:Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess? by ams6110 on Tuesday November 07, 2017 @03:23PM (#15647183)
Time to treat Apple releases like we used to treat Microsoft releases? (Always wait for the first service pack).
Re:Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess? by bunderbunder on Tuesday November 07, 2017 @03:31PM (#15647262)
If iOS 11.1 can be considered "the first service pack", then even that sounds iffy. Or at least, what I'm reading suggests that even with that update, my battery life would still be crap should I decide to upgrade.

Though this gets to another problem with Apple's maintenance of iOS: If you don't upgrade to iOS 11, you don't get their fix for krack attacks. Microsoft, on the other hand, did have the common decency to continue issuing security patches for older major releases.

Re:Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess? by excalibur on Tuesday November 07, 2017 @03:42PM (#15647390)
This. When Apple devices reach two generations old, they need to be forcibly removed from your environment, or they will quickly become gaping security holes. For a company that prides itself on its image of protecting users' privacy, it sure is behind the curve on software maintenance.
Re:Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess? by tatersolid on Tuesday November 07, 2017 @06:04PM (#15648530)
My family has 4 year old iPhone 5S in service that still receive all security updates.

Our Android devices on the other hand... not so much. Six months of updates seems to be about the max!

Re:Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess? by thr0w__4w4y on Thursday November 09, 2017 @07:57AM (#15661965)
I think excalibur meant "when the software version is two versions back", not the hardware.

I suspect the family is still getting security updates because you are running iOS 11 on the 5S. I bought a 5S too back in 2013, it came with iOS 7. If you were still running iOS 7 (or 8, or 9, or probably even 10 now) on the device, you would not be getting updates any more.